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And if you were simply referring to the electronic driving aids in the gtr, porsche's offer much of the same in their cars as well...

I think your personal love/admiration for porsche has clouded your judgement on this topic.

Porsche offers a variety of cars that can be had in manual or paddle shift options. Porsche makes the 911 suited toward the driver whither they want full performance or a cross country GT car.

About your Porsche judgement comment, did you forget when i explained to you about the 959?

And why not mention why i prefer the R32-R34 GTRs to the superior R35?

Sorry it wasn't one of my long explanations. Bit lazy today.

edit......i'll add to it tommorow.

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Porsche offers a variety of cars that can be had in manual or paddle shift options. Porsche makes the 911 suited toward the driver whither they want full performance or a cross country GT car.

About your Porsche judgement comment, did you forget when i explained to you about the 959?

And why not mention why i prefer the R32-R34 GTRs to the superior R35?

Sorry it wasn't one of my long explanations. Bit lazy today.

edit......i'll add to it tommorow.

I would take a R34 over a R35 anyday.

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Porsche offers a variety of cars that can be had in manual or paddle shift options. Porsche makes the 911 suited toward the driver whither they want full performance or a cross country GT car.

About your Porsche judgement comment, did you forget when i explained to you about the 959?

And why not mention why i prefer the R32-R34 GTRs to the superior R35?

Sorry it wasn't one of my long explanations. Bit lazy today.

edit......i'll add to it tommorow.

You're right, porsche offers more drivetrain options on their cars.

I also prefer the r34 to the gtr. But the gtr is not a r35, nor a skyline, neither in Japan nor USA. The current skyline, and r34's successor(even thought it is not considered r35) would be a jdm skline 370gt, or here in the US, an infiniti g37.

Gtr even in japan is a "gtr", not a skyline, not an r35...

You still didn't answer my question. What about the gtr makes it so that it drives itself? I know I can't change anyones mind here, nor do I try to, but I jsut simply canot understand why one thinks having a stick shift makes the car a drivers car. The reason why ppl like stick shifts is because it gives you more control in that it lets you change gears when you want. But when you can also control the transmission with the omission of a 3rd pedal it all of a sudden becomes a car that drives itself? So am I to believe that you're definition of a drivers car is not a car that you can manually shift, because you can do that in a gtr, but one that has a pedal to occupy you left leg?

Not trying to have any e battles, just friendly debating is all.