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    Don't argue with them, most people that are ignorant don't know the real facts. Ford is doing pretty well and all automakers are hurting right now. The old stigma that import cars are better quality is simply slowly going away. Ford is making cars with better MPG and just as good quality. They are up and coming again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by armyed
    Don't argue with them, most people that are ignorant don't know the real facts. Ford is doing pretty well and all automakers are hurting right now. The old stigma that import cars are better quality is simply slowly going away. Ford is making cars with better MPG and just as good quality. They are up and coming again!
    All it took was a swift kick in the ass and a nearly worthless stock for them to make better cars, along with the fellow American automakers. That is not to say that American automakers haven't had quality before, they have, but the problem was consistency. Consistency paired with quality is were the Import (Japanese) automakers have had considerably success. Again, this is not to say that they haven't had misses over the years, just less than there their American counterparts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bafbrian
    All it took was a swift kick in the ass and a nearly worthless stock for them to make better cars, along with the fellow American automakers. That is not to say that American automakers haven't had quality before, they have, but the problem was consistency. Consistency paired with quality is were the Import (Japanese) automakers have had considerably success. Again, this is not to say that they haven't had misses over the years, just less than there their American counterparts.
    Yea you are right about that, it took them losing a ton of profits and getting kicked in the nuts to realize what they were doing wrong. But now they are back in it and I think you will see nothing but good stuff coming from Ford for years to come. They have already been working for a good while to improve all there stuff and come out with new ground breaking technology. They are getting ranked up there with Toyota on quality and doing better every day. I am like anyone else. I have driven Toyota's, Hondas, and Nissans and for the most part they have made very high quality cars. But so are American cars(Even though they have had some bad stuff too). Its a stigma thats been put on American companies that all there stuff is crap when in reality its not. We may have had some real bad runs and a some models that were crap but overall the vehicles arent as bad as people say. Look at Ford Rangers that are still going strong after 250k miles. You still see old foxbody mustangs running around with more the 200k on the odometer. But to each his own, I will continue to buy American just like I always have. I like my straight line performance!!!! HAHAHAHAHA

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    Quote Originally Posted by armyed
    Yea you are right about that, it took them losing a ton of profits and getting kicked in the nuts to realize what they were doing wrong. But now they are back in it and I think you will see nothing but good stuff coming from Ford for years to come. They have already been working for a good while to improve all there stuff and come out with new ground breaking technology. They are getting ranked up there with Toyota on quality and doing better every day. I am like anyone else. I have driven Toyota's, Hondas, and Nissans and for the most part they have made very high quality cars. But so are American cars(Even though they have had some bad stuff too). Its a stigma thats been put on American companies that all there stuff is crap when in reality its not. We may have had some real bad runs and a some models that were crap but overall the vehicles arent as bad as people say. Look at Ford Rangers that are still going strong after 250k miles. You still see old foxbody mustangs running around with more the 200k on the odometer. But to each his own, I will continue to buy American just like I always have. I like my straight line performance!!!! HAHAHAHAHA
    I can agree with you on Ford having a resurgence but GM is still faltering. I think it will take GM some time before it is making quality vehicles consistently. In the end, if GM sells off the smaller brands and focuses on a few, I think they will be successful again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bafbrian
    I can agree with you on Ford having a resurgence but GM is still faltering. I think it will take GM some time before it is making quality vehicles consistently. In the end, if GM sells off the smaller brands and focuses on a few, I think they will be successful again.
    Yea GM has definitely seen better days when it comes to the quality. It is gonna take years and years before they are back on there feet and doing well again. We shall see if it happens!

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    Quote Originally Posted by armyed
    Yea GM has definitely seen better days when it comes to the quality. It is gonna take years and years before they are back on there feet and doing well again. We shall see if it happens!
    Hopefully they will. While I am not a big fan of GM, I do feel sorry for the those who are losing their jobs, retirement, and pensions because of this mess. I was almost tempted to buy stock in GM the other day when it was $0.75 a share. Would have taken a while to get a return on it, but it might have been worth it in the end.
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