More Stupid GTR Warranty BS

[nreggie454]

Wow.... WTF is Nissan thinking?

http://njection.com/blogs/exclusive/...2010-gt-r.aspx

Cliffs: Adding, replacing, reprogramming, attempting to reprogram, altering or disconnecting any computer, control unit, or electronic module or deleting any or all stored information in any computer, control unit, or electronic module, or denying access to any data or information stored in any computer, control unit, or electronic module VOIDS ALL COVERAGE under the 2010 Nissan GT-R New Vehicle Limited Warranty.

No Operating the GT-R on a dynamometer

No use on a track or airstrip

So, you buy a purpose built car which 95% of the hype is its amazing 'Ring times, but the second it sets a wheel onto a track to do what it is built for, the warranty is voided. God forbid you try to dyno this car, either. I guess this car really IS for bench racing posers after all!

[IndianStig]

Of course most that can buy this car couldn't care less about the warranty.

[Frög]

Of course most that can buy this car couldn't care less about the warranty.

Not true.. At all..


I will say it again:
Nissan = FAIL

[ep9716]

Of course most that can buy this car couldn't care less about the warranty.

X2

If They Can Drop That Much Cash For That Type Of Car..They Would Not Care About Warranty...

[GSRteg®]

Of course most that can buy this car couldn't care less about the warranty.

This man speaks the truth!

[DieselNuts]

This man speaks the truth!

You're retarded. How can you say that anyone short of a multi-millionaire wouldn't care about having to replace a $30K transmission? Do it twice and magically the Porsche 997 Turbo becomes a better bang for the buck.

[DirtyMechanic]

all i can say is MTN RUN HOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

[1moreaccord]

No Operating the GT-R on a dynamometer

No use any on use on a track or airstrip


I'm having a a hard time reading this ^^ XD

[SiRed94]

No Operating the GT-R on a dynamometer

No use any on use on a track or airstrip


I'm having a a hard time reading this ^^ XD

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[nreggie454]

No Operating the GT-R on a dynamometer

No use any on use on a track or airstrip


I'm having a a hard time reading this ^^ XD

Their typo, direct copy/paste from the site. I will fix it.

[Bus Driver J]

Oh well, GTR fails once again. If you drive it like you have sense then you have no problems.
Dont launch it, track it, or dyno it. How many dyno sheets of a stock GTR does one need? If you modify it then there goes you warranty so dyno away and go straight to a track.

The Lotus warranty is similar. If you are on a track and a stop watch is involved for "competitive" purposes then say bye bye to your warranty.

[JITB]

1. Name one car that you can do any of that stuff to and take it to the dealership modified like that, and they will still honor the warranty

2. The GTR CAN go on some race tracks, it just HAS to be taken in for a maintenance after it, which is 2k-2k, depending, if NOT than the warranty can be voided.


what car company has the funds to repair a car that a person goes out and abuses on the track, and breaks something. its not Nissans job to fund your raceing dreams, they just build the car.

[Vteckidd]

1. Name one car that you can do any of that stuff to and take it to the dealership modified like that, and they will still honor the warranty

2. The GTR CAN go on some race tracks, it just HAS to be taken in for a maintenance after it, which is 2k-2k, depending, if NOT than the warranty can be voided.


what car company has the funds to repair a car that a person goes out and abuses on the track, and breaks something. its not Nissans job to fund your raceing dreams, they just build the car.

+1 sir

[On_Her_Face]

1. Name one car that you can do any of that stuff to and take it to the dealership modified like that, and they will still honor the warranty

2. The GTR CAN go on some race tracks, it just HAS to be taken in for a maintenance after it, which is 2k-2k, depending, if NOT than the warranty can be voided.


what car company has the funds to repair a car that a person goes out and abuses on the track, and breaks something. its not Nissans job to fund your raceing dreams, they just build the car.

Hendricks Chevrolet dealership in Gwinnett. They've fixed tons of things on my old Corvette while having the track numbers on my windows.

[Kaiser]

Hendricks Chevrolet dealership in Gwinnett. They've fixed tons of things on my old Corvette while having the track numbers on my windows.

Which is good of them, but from what I've seen of the Z06 warranty paperwork Chevrolet doesn't cover that either.


Don't see how Nissan's gone insane with their warranty on the GT-R...Ferrari is actually quite specific about what they will cover depending on what modification you do to the car and will happily tell you they'll fix what you broke if you pay for it. All Nissan has done is reaffirm that they will not fix problems caused by the OWNER OF THE VEHICLE or anything the OWNER does to the car under the terms of the warranty which represents a promise by the manufacturer that the car comes from the factory problem free with routine maintenance for a given period of time. The warranty on a new Honda Accord has basically the same wording in it, and I can't figure out why people are so upset. Hell, when Chrysler was offering that unlimited powertrain coverage they made sure that they stopped anything that modified the engine to increase output that affected the failed system wasn't covered. Specifically anything that increased output and the transmission failed afterwards, they were going to think long and hard about whether or not they were going to pay for that transmission.

Please people, don't be unrealistic with your expectations that Nissan is going to somehow magically cover all of your problems. If you don't like their rules, simply don't buy one. If the car cost what an F430 cost and came with this kind of warranty I could see the complaint, but the car costs what a new BMW M3 costs.

and if i hydrolock my motor then i guess ill put the stock intake back on and let them replace the bottom end, lol.

I wish you good luck with that. Let us know how it goes, huh?

[01CDMLUDER]

Don't see how Nissan's gone insane with their warranty on the GT-R...Ferrari is actually quite specific about what they will cover depending on what modification you do to the car and will happily tell you they'll fix what you broke if you pay for it. All Nissan has done is reaffirm that they will not fix problems caused by the OWNER OF THE VEHICLE or anything the OWNER does to the car under the terms of the warranty which represents a promise by the manufacturer that the car comes from the factory problem free with routine maintenance for a given period of time. The warranty on a new Honda Accord has basically the same wording in it, and I can't figure out why people are so upset. Hell, when Chrysler was offering that unlimited powertrain coverage they made sure that they stopped anything that modified the engine to increase output that affected the failed system wasn't covered. Specifically anything that increased output and the transmission failed afterwards, they were going to think long and hard about whether or not they were going to pay for that transmission.

Please people, don't be unrealistic with your expectations that Nissan is going to somehow magically cover all of your problems. If you don't like their rules, simply don't buy one. If the car cost what an F430 cost and came with this kind of warranty I could see the complaint, but the car costs what a new BMW M3 costs.

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[_Christian_]

Which is good of them, but from what I've seen of the Z06 warranty paperwork Chevrolet doesn't cover that either.


Don't see how Nissan's gone insane with their warranty on the GT-R...Ferrari is actually quite specific about what they will cover depending on what modification you do to the car and will happily tell you they'll fix what you broke if you pay for it. All Nissan has done is reaffirm that they will not fix problems caused by the OWNER OF THE VEHICLE or anything the OWNER does to the car under the terms of the warranty which represents a promise by the manufacturer that the car comes from the factory problem free with routine maintenance for a given period of time. The warranty on a new Honda Accord has basically the same wording in it, and I can't figure out why people are so upset. Hell, when Chrysler was offering that unlimited powertrain coverage they made sure that they stopped anything that modified the engine to increase output that affected the failed system wasn't covered. Specifically anything that increased output and the transmission failed afterwards, they were going to think long and hard about whether or not they were going to pay for that transmission.

Please people, don't be unrealistic with your expectations that Nissan is going to somehow magically cover all of your problems. If you don't like their rules, simply don't buy one. If the car cost what an F430 cost and came with this kind of warranty I could see the complaint, but the car costs what a new BMW M3 costs.

Not everyone buys it to mod. Nissan also regulates where and how you use it. You can't use launch control or turn VDC off. There's a difference between modifying your car and using a feature INCLUDED on the car. So you get a tease of a performance car that you can't fully use, or a performance car with no warranty. Sorry, but I can't have faith in a car when the manufacturer doesn't.

[Five*Star*]

My thoughts on this....


Nissan sold you a $200,000 Super-car-annihilator for $80,000. They already gave you an insane deal.... they can't clean up after you, too. If their tranny is that exspensive, but a very awesome design... one should not abuse it.


What other cars luanch 0-60 in 3.3 with awd and a 3800lb chassis? Are they under $100,000???


I kinda see where Nissan is coming from. They are giving you the goods up front, but it's up to you to be deserving of it. The guys on the Ferrari budget, can buy the GTR for a daily or track car and have all the fun they want with it. After blowing 3-4 transmissions, they will still be out-of-pocket LESS than a new Ferrari F430 owner would.


My cousin just bought a 2009 E92 M3 BMW, but he's not planning on getting too crazy with it, because he knows he needs that warranty for awhile.

[DieselNuts]

1. Name one car that you can do any of that stuff to and take it to the dealership modified like that, and they will still honor the warranty

2. The GTR CAN go on some race tracks, it just HAS to be taken in for a maintenance after it, which is 2k-2k, depending, if NOT than the warranty can be voided.


what car company has the funds to repair a car that a person goes out and abuses on the track, and breaks something. its not Nissans job to fund your raceing dreams, they just build the car.

I've seen turbo'd g35's go in for warranty work and it has gotten covered. Same company...explain that...

the people that can afford one dont care about warranty

So you're saying that someone that can afford an $80K car doesnt car about having to replace a $30K transmission?

i mean it can do what it says it can do, and still keep it under warranty in stock form.

like selling a 14sec civic that runs perfectly, and the new owner goes out and mods it into a 12sec civic.. and faults the previous owner for it breaking...

What are you talking about? Not even close. It plainly says, take it to a track, void your warranty. Put it on a dyno, void your warranty.

[RL...]

no car is perfect, and the gtr is far from it. But either way, you get a lot of bang for the buck. I don't see how ppl can be so quick to judge when they've never driven the car...

[DieselNuts]

no car is perfect, and the gtr is far from it. But either way, you get a lot of bang for the buck. I don't see how ppl can be so quick to judge when they've never driven the car...

you dont need to drive the car to read the warranty info...

[koukis14]

I've seen turbo'd g35's go in for warranty work and it has gotten covered. Same company...explain that...

What was fixed? One of my customers has a turbo kit on his vehicle and I warranty his radio, window regulators...ect all day long. If his engine blows he is fucked unless he tows it to his house/shop and turns it all back to stock. Even though I knew he had it modded I'm not going to rat him out.....why? Because making the manufacturer pay for it retains customer loyalty, and 9 times out of ten if you do make them pay for it they cry up the ladder and you end up eating half the labor and your effective labor rate goes in the shitter killing your paycheck. Customer pay kicks ass but I'll take less money from warranty before I pay for half of it myself. Unfortunatly as far as the GTR goes, the service dept has no choice. Information has to be sent via internet to Nissan directly from the car. If they see something they don't like the repair gets bounced.

[DieselNuts]

What was fixed? One of my customers has a turbo kit on his vehicle and I warranty his radio, window regulators...ect all day long. If his engine blows he is fucked unless he tows it to his house/shop and turns it all back to stock. Even though I knew he had it modded I'm not going to rat him out.....why? Because making the manufacturer pay for it retains customer loyalty, and 9 times out of ten if you do make them pay for it they cry up the ladder and you end up eating half the labor and your effective labor rate goes in the shitter killing your paycheck. Customer pay kicks ass but I'll take less money from warranty before I pay for half of it myself. Unfortunatly as far as the GTR goes, the service dept has no choice. Information has to be sent via internet to Nissan directly from the car. If they see something they don't like the repair gets bounced.

It was the Transmission. I'll look for the thread.

[koukis14]

It was the Transmission. I'll look for the thread.

The GFF required by the manufacturer to warranty a transmission would not give away a turbo kit. It would be up to the Service Dept at the dealership to inform the factory the car is modded.

[JITB]

I've seen turbo'd g35's go in for warranty work and it has gotten covered. Same company...explain that...


So you're saying that someone that can afford an $80K car doesnt car about having to replace a $30K transmission?


What are you talking about? Not even close. It plainly says, take it to a track, void your warranty. Put it on a dyno, void your warranty.

its been said time and time again.. we all went over this warranty, thing before. last year when the gtr came out, about it removing the MPH restrictions, for certain tracks, and certain GPS locations. So the brain will know where the car has been. And if it has been it HAS to be serviced.. A guy on the GTR forums, has already done it, and he took it to nissan got it serviced, and went along about his business..

I dont know where you all are getting this idea, that if you modify a car. That the dealership is supposed to fix it, if it breaks. What is wrong with you all.. its been happening.

The people that complain the most about the GTR arent the owners.. the owners seem to be very pleased...so whats the issue.

This car isnt any special piece of equipment, it will break just like any other piece of machinery on the road.

[Siverprobegt]

1. Name one car that you can do any of that stuff to and take it to the dealership modified like that, and they will still honor the warranty

2. The GTR CAN go on some race tracks, it just HAS to be taken in for a maintenance after it, which is 2k-2k, depending, if NOT than the warranty can be voided.


what car company has the funds to repair a car that a person goes out and abuses on the track, and breaks something. its not Nissans job to fund your raceing dreams, they just build the car.

Come on now..i aint spending that kind on money an don"t drive it hard!You don't see m3 or M5 breaking parts like that..Bmw know what you spend your money for..They could of do a much better job on the transmissions

[BobbyFresco]

Come on now..i aint spending that kind on money an don"t drive it hard!You don't see m3 or M5 breaking parts like that..Bmw know what you spend your money for..They could of do a much better job on the transmissions

Bmw isn't without its faults...there was a huge issue with the Vanos system on E46 M3's failing and numerous dealerships were not honoring replacement under warranty. One would think with all the r and d hours involved in developing a car that build flaws would not be an issue...I guess it all comes down to car manufacturers skimping on quality material when building these high priced cars...

[Cool Cat Racing]

Take your Z06 to the track and break it, Chevy still fixes it.

[Z33_kid]

the people that can afford one dont care about warranty

[DUBSf22c]

Still funny. Its hype was based on its amazing track times and handling. I just think for them to be this strict is to go against WHAT THIS SPECIFIC car was setting out to do. I really think it takes the fun out of it.

[JITB]

Still funny. Its hype was based on its amazing track times and handling. I just think for them to be this strict is to go against WHAT THIS SPECIFIC car was setting out to do. I really think it takes the fun out of it.

i mean it can do what it says it can do, and still keep it under warranty in stock form.

like selling a 14sec civic that runs perfectly, and the new owner goes out and mods it into a 12sec civic.. and faults the previous owner for it breaking...

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

i mean it can do what it says it can do, and still keep it under warranty in stock form.

like selling a 14sec civic that runs perfectly, and the new owner goes out and mods it into a 12sec civic.. and faults the previous owner for it breaking...

Fail at example, lol.

Just leave it as, why would a company pay for someone who abused the hell out of the car and broke it and now they want it fixed for free.

[JITB]

Fail at example, lol.

Just leave it as, why would a company pay for someone who abused the hell out of the car and broke it and now they want it fixed for free.

its the same principle.. GTR a 11-12 sec car, chip the ecu, and al crazy bolt-ons, and its a 10 sec. car. You wont expect nissan to fix it when the tranny grenades, with all the mods on the Ecu.

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

its the same principle.. GTR a 11-12 sec car, chip the ecu, and al crazy bolt-ons, and its a 10 sec. car. You wont expect nissan to fix it when the tranny grenades, with all the mods on the Ecu.

How is it the same principle? LOL. There's a difference from buying a car from the DEALER and buying a car from PRIVATE. 99% cars that are sold private are sold, AS-IS. Buying from the dealer, you can MAYBE get some warranty depending how old your car is.

[_Christian_]

its the same principle.. GTR a 11-12 sec car, chip the ecu, and al crazy bolt-ons, and its a 10 sec. car. You wont expect nissan to fix it when the tranny grenades, with all the mods on the Ecu.

What if they just want to achieve the claimed factory performance specs?

[DieselNuts]

its the same principle.. GTR a 11-12 sec car, chip the ecu, and al crazy bolt-ons, and its a 10 sec. car. You wont expect nissan to fix it when the tranny grenades, with all the mods on the Ecu.

but they wont fix it even if its stock...

[jdm93civic]

I heard bout all that....Damn technology

[okra1981]

Mitsubishi did this a few years back with the Evolution, they would look into track records and void warranty for the cars involved with racing. The abuses of everyday driving are very different from the abuses of a track (unless you driver that insane on a street for extended periods of time), these companies are just protecting themselves from customers who will continually return something whenever the customer should know to cover their own butts whenever they abuse their car in such a way. I don't blame them for this, the launch control seems like a different issue, if you advertise and praise your auto for having something so ingenious, then you should find a more reliable way of providing such a feature to your customer, rather than charge $20k for a transmission and then take the feature away entirely.

[koukis14]

Mos car companies do this. Your a moron if you walk into the service dept and say " I was on my 5th run down the drag strip and the transmission blew up." We had a customer go apeshit when his brakes on his RS4 were not warranty when they were metal to metal at 5,000 mile. He should not have been bragging about how he knows Road Atlanta like the back of his hand and tracks his car whenever possible. Hell Ferrari voids the warranty if the car is tracked. Read your fine print.

[speedminded]

Hrmm...

Keeping Your Mod's Warranty Intact

It's called being familiar with the 1975 Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act.