heck yea always been a fan of b20 but what head would you put on top?? the stock head or what??
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heck yea always been a fan of b20 but what head would you put on top?? the stock head or what??
nice setup.
where did you get those tail lights from?
they look like nice as hell.
Prolly would use P8r head they say its a little bit better valves are like 1mm bigger.I think dont quote me but I read that somewhere.And combustion chambers are a little bit smaller....Quote:
Originally Posted by jdm93civic
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Originally Posted by se7en
for real.. i've never heard of ANY stock LS motor with more than 120 hp to the wheels.
That's because he didn't clearly state what he meant. The motor was NOT stock it was just prior to his build. And if you think you're going to make 200whp you're gonna come up way short and disappointed. Like when you just said you thought you would have 185 after what you just did and you have 150ish..... way short of goal as are 99% of all other non vtec all motor builds....... im still trying to figure out why you're going through all the trouble of sleeving the block for whats gonna end up being 165-170whp......Quote:
Originally Posted by Humphries
don't get my wrong, im interested in watching other ppl build non vtecs. im not trying to persuade you by any means, just friendly discussions......
so whats the long term goal? whp?tq?1/4?and $ spent?
yea, my buddies OEM LS build put down 123hp to the wheels with standard timing adjustments and some of his special research. Car also had intake and exhaust, stock header.Quote:
Originally Posted by Humphries
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F1zF-PNQus this is a message i got from him telling me his mods
its a b18a1 block bored to 81.50mm, weisco 11.5:1 pistons, eagle rods, golden eagle block guard, exospeed stage 3 race port and polished head, stainless steel valves, brian crower valve springs and retainers, brian crower stage 2 all motor cams, blox intake manifold, blox 70mm throttle body, 310cc injectors, custom 3 inch intake with velocity stack, hytech try-y replica header,b16 tranny. ive put alot of time in the car it ran 13.31 @101 mph with slipping clutch on motor, and 11.91 @116 mph on 100 shot dry nitrous, with blown headgasket slipping clutch and spinning tires through 2nd
a 200whp car is gonna trap higher than 101.
maybe he lied lol but with the mods he listed hard to tell
To me this build is a fun build and Ill have less in it what a bunch of my friends have put in there LS-Vtec builds. It is all on preference. I mean when you look at LS you don't expect it to make 180-200whp at all. It turns into a sleeper. As far as 1/4 I really don't run on the track that much. It also has to do with determination. I WANT a 200 whp NA LS. I will get it. But I have done alot of research and watching what other have done to get close and what people have done to reach it. I will be going with the Stage 3 Exospeed Head Pkg, Stage 3 or 4 cam, ARP Head Studs, Eagle Rods, GSR/Type-R Oil Pump, GE Block Guard. I may go ahead and do 84mm Darton Sleeves with SRP 11:25:1 comp b16 pistons. Now for the power I am at right now. I made 169whp with 134trq with the a/f at 14.4 wide open. The guy tuning it did not want the motor to be under that much stress so he detuned it to 12.7 wide open and 13.7 ride around and it still made 156.5whp with 124trq. I find that pretty impressive with me only spending $900 for claying the motor, tuning, install, labor, and so forth. But there no hard feelings. I understand where some of you are coming from. But remember who the fastest all motor guys is right now and its done without vtec. Could it happen with a LS? Yes just time, money, determination, blood, sweat, tears, and R and D. Plus its fun haveing guys look at your motor and say ( Its just a LS, I have one in my EF, Ill run you for $20!) then they get smoked by 5 car lengths with me letting off :lmfao:. Thanks for the feed back. Keep it coming.
Nice build..
i dont believe a fucking thing he says.. the times arent normal, it's way too hard to get near 200 hp out of an ls without 5-7k dollars.
wow whats up with the language??:thinking: And how do you figure it takes that much money??:???: My buddy owns Central Perfomance here in Montgomery and is the one I am getting most of my parts from. So lets do a run down then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Humphries
Bisismoto Sleeved Block - $789
SRP 11:25:1 84mm B16 Pistons - $300
Exospeed Stage 3 or 4 Cam - 260-290
Eagle Rods - $250
Exospeed Head Stage 3 - $1150
INSTALLED AND TUNED - FREE
Total Equals - $2779.00 (That's if I go with a sleeved block. If I don't then it will be about $1000 dollars cheaper:D )
sounds good.... will you post a dyno when you are done?Quote:
Originally Posted by jdm93civic
Nice! I would like to know all the shop in Mobile and Montgomery. Where? and name? So, When I need some tuned or parts I can go. :goodjob:Quote:
Originally Posted by jdm93civic
yea for sure. Gotta its kinda one of those things that you can't say well I made this much with out proof.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdm94Coupe
You people forget that dyno numbers are just that....a number. Trap speed is where its at ;)
true that. I build cars I'll daily drive. I don't run on the track that much and yea I run on the street. I know some people gonna hate me saying that.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarKStaR
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Originally Posted by DarKStaR
exactly dynos are a tuning tool. your trap speed shows how much power the car is really making
This stuff Idk if its 200whp but should be around that range.But I hate when people make excuses my clutch slipping and spinning tires a little chirp doesnt mean you are spinning.:lmfao: Stop making excuse if that stuff was that bad you wouldnt have ran right:D Thank YOU Very MuchQuote:
Originally Posted by allmotorX
Might wanna rethink that JG does it and they sell their motors pretty good price.Under 7k or 5kQuote:
Originally Posted by Humphries
:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: I know someone with a Ls in a Ef he will run for 30$ but cant pop his hood his hood latch is broken.And if you lose and you dont believe its a ls he will beat you 50$ that it is and if it isnt then you get 50$ No nitrous eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by jdm93civic
[/QUOTE]I know someone with a Ls in a Ef he will run for 30$ but cant pop his hood his hood latch is broken.And if you lose and you dont believe its a ls he will beat you 50$ that it is and if it isnt then you get 50$ No nitrous either[/QUOTE]
Umm okay.........Not quite making much sense. But its cool. Not being a ass but you must think I would be scared to run him and lose? Theres always someone faster. Unless it is the EF that was near the ATL area that had a LS1 in it. Then hmmmmm.:ninja: Might be wrong. But its cool. Thanks for the comments.
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Originally Posted by southside
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Originally Posted by SandM