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    I will be doing a sohc build n/a just to have some fun with it but I do have a gsr with 13 to1 compression and some nice head work with flat face vales the same will done with the sohc or higher people may say don't do it but what every I say just do it too see what it makes and what it do people told not to go high with the gsr but it is still running with no problem so do what you do and keep it moving and if you blow it up how much is a sohc vs a gsr ok then

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    I think he could get in the 150's. I would say y8 head. Here is my suggestion.
    Bore it .20 over
    11:5 - 12:5 Comp Pistons
    H-Beam Rods
    Valvetrain
    Block Guarded
    Tuned
    And do research on what bolt ons make power and don't. I beleive you will be in the 150's or really close. For a DD that is all I would do.
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    I will be doing a sohc build n/a just to have some fun with it but I do have a gsr with 13 to1 compression and some nice head work with flat face vales the same will done with the sohc or higher people may say don't do it but what every I say just do it too see what it makes and what it do people told not to go high with the gsr but it is still running with no problem so do what you do and keep it moving and if you blow it up how much is a sohc vs a gsr ok then
    God damn dude, punctuate much?

    I agree though, do it to see what you can get from it. Run high octane and get it tuned and you may surprise a lot of folks.

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    i don't know man, all motor d motor that could spank folks would be extremely nice, but i think the amount of money and time invested into it, over the life of the motor, might not be worth it. but really, money not being a problem, anything is possible. i just want to send my 95 civic coupe into the 12's with a sohc.

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    now a NA Sohc in the 12's? hmm. What shell? (May have missed it in the beggining) It can be done.
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    u just need higher compresson and a bunch of head work thats the week point in the d's.......

    -EX tranny
    -Vtec head y8-z6
    -Cam stg2-3
    -Valvtrain
    -Ported-match the intake man.
    -High comp. 11:5-12:1
    -Tune
    - U should be around 140-150hp, and that will beat/stay with most B's
    -If You Own A Honda And Say "Headers", Go Jump Off Bridge...........


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    Quote Originally Posted by jdm93civic
    I think he could get in the 150's. I would say y8 head. Here is my suggestion.
    Bore it .20 over
    11:5 - 12:5 Comp Pistons
    H-Beam Rods
    Valvetrain
    Block Guarded
    Tuned
    And do research on what bolt ons make power and don't. I beleive you will be in the 150's or really close. For a DD that is all I would do.
    Or just about what he said lol didn't see this till after I wrote mine... What do u need a block gaurd on NA for?
    -If You Own A Honda And Say "Headers", Go Jump Off Bridge...........


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    Quote Originally Posted by jdm93civic
    now a NA Sohc in the 12's? hmm. What shell? (May have missed it in the beggining) It can be done.
    oh, lol, i'm not going all motor into the 12's. waaay more money and time i want to spend.

    its a 95 civic ex coupe, full interiour. i figured with around 350-375hp maybe 400, it could be done. although i will need to swap my tranny though. dx trans ftl!

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    I block guard all motors i do any internal bottom end work to. I tjust insures some type of stregthning. I had a b16 i bored .20 over with 11:5 comp and shifted a sleeve. I do it as a precaution.



    Quote Originally Posted by Turbodude06
    Or just about what he said lol didn't see this till after I wrote mine... What do u need a block gaurd on NA for?
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    oh ok yea u can never be to safe......
    -If You Own A Honda And Say "Headers", Go Jump Off Bridge...........


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    thanks guys for all your imput i am in the proces of building
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    are you gonna use juice on it?

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    I love how I see all these posts about "Oh I will be dragging the K's with this setup or so on..." I still haven't seen 'PROOF' of it... so when you do then you can start saying this shit. Because as it stands... A stock K is still making just as much power as these built H's and B's.
    K-What?!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ejohnson88
    I love how I see all these posts about "Oh I will be dragging the K's with this setup or so on..." I still haven't seen 'PROOF' of it... so when you do then you can start saying this shit. Because as it stands... A stock K is still making just as much power as these built H's and B's.
    lol no comment
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    I love how I see all these posts about "Oh I will be dragging the K's with this setup or so on..." I still haven't seen 'PROOF' of it... so when you do then you can start saying this shit. Because as it stands... A stock K is still making just as much power as these built H's and B's.
    lulz
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    Quote Originally Posted by ejohnson88
    I love how I see all these posts about "Oh I will be dragging the K's with this setup or so on..." I still haven't seen 'PROOF' of it... so when you do then you can start saying this shit. Because as it stands... A stock K is still making just as much power as these built H's and B's.
    there's not a lot of difference in hp between a stock h22 and a k-series.

    h22 is what.....190hp?
    k20 is around 200hp?

    but all motor, i'd take the k, boost, b.

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    if you want a budget build 150whp d series...they dont exist, i have done it. here is what it took.

    honda cbr 954rr itb setup with porsche trumpets (complete custom)
    je 11:5:1 ceramic coated pistons 78mm
    custom stainless header
    one serious p&p (Z6 head)
    ferrera oversize valves+springs+retainers all titanium
    hondata s300
    crower pro billet rods
    arp rod bolts and head studs
    cometic head gasket (alot thinner then stock)
    acl race/main/journal bearings


    was not worth it

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    Actually....A stock h22 with ys1 tranny will take a stock k all day with half the money spent!!



    Quote Originally Posted by ejohnson88
    I love how I see all these posts about "Oh I will be dragging the K's with this setup or so on..." I still haven't seen 'PROOF' of it... so when you do then you can start saying this shit. Because as it stands... A stock K is still making just as much power as these built H's and B's.
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    my bolt on h2b makes the same power as a bolt on K. i don't see why more b swap people don't do it. The torque is way better than my other gsr hatch. i run the same times and mph's as a k too. I wouldn't do a k20, but rather a 2.4 hybrid would be the only k I would do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starrfire
    In laymans words, you ain't getting 150 whp. All of these engines you see that do have some serious secrets within them, and most of the people that say they are "stock" builds are lying like hell. You'll be lucky to get 130 whp out of that setup. D series motors that make more than 150 whp cost about as much as a cheap k swap.
    thats a false statement
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    Quote Originally Posted by B_Hoov
    if you want a budget build 150whp d series...they dont exist, i have done it. here is what it took.

    honda cbr 954rr itb setup with porsche trumpets (complete custom)
    je 11:5:1 ceramic coated pistons 78mm
    custom stainless header
    one serious p&p (Z6 head)
    ferrera oversize valves+springs+retainers all titanium
    hondata s300
    crower pro billet rods
    arp rod bolts and head studs
    cometic head gasket (alot thinner then stock)
    acl race/main/journal bearings


    was not worth it
    prolly because you didnt have a cam in that bitch
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdm>usdm
    Dont build it. I put close to a grand into the head of my n/a y8.
    Big mistake, huge waste of time and money.

    Live and learn.lol
    haha good shit man,was still kinda quick.
    "Sometimes i wish i pooped golden eggs"

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    Well...time to put my two cents in...I had a built d16z6 and achieved 146 whp, so I know 150 is attainable. Just not cheap. I'm building another d series n/a now. Gonna try to get 160whp who knows. Here was setup on the old d:

    D16z6
    PnP head
    62 mm throttle body
    Stock Intake manifold port matched to head and tb
    Hondata intake gasket
    crower stage 2 cam
    Ferrea valves/retainers
    D16a1 pistons on stock rods
    Y8 head gasket
    Aem cai
    Dc header
    Magnaflow 2.25" exhaust
    Cat delete
    270 cc rc's
    FPR
    Holley fuel rail
    Walbro 255 lph fuel pump
    UR adjustable cam gear
    Apexi vafc
    "Spoon" chipped p28

    In a 95 coupe with full interior,stock clutch and street tires spinning, ran a 14.67@95mph
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    Quote Originally Posted by b18ej1
    Well...time to put my two cents in...I had a built d16z6 and achieved 146 whp, so I know 150 is attainable. Just not cheap. I'm building another d series n/a now. Gonna try to get 160whp who knows. Here was setup on the old d:

    D16z6
    PnP head
    62 mm throttle body
    Stock Intake manifold port matched to head and tb
    Hondata intake gasket
    crower stage 2 cam
    Ferrea valves/retainers
    D16a1 pistons on stock rods
    Y8 head gasket
    Aem cai
    Dc header
    Magnaflow 2.25" exhaust
    Cat delete
    270 cc rc's
    FPR
    Holley fuel rail
    Walbro 255 lph fuel pump
    UR adjustable cam gear
    Apexi vafc
    "Spoon" chipped p28

    In a 95 coupe with full interior,stock clutch and street tires spinning, ran a 14.67@95mph
    let me know how it goes and what you make whp wise
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    my buddy has z6 in 89 hatch with cam & every bolt-on and sum skunk2 head stuff...
    his car is at 1900lbs n sum change gutted.... i kept up with him in meh gutted ej2 d15 with
    intake, header/test pipe, and hks hi power cat back... id boost the d or go 1st gen b16

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeysjdm
    my buddy has z6 in 89 hatch with cam & every bolt-on and sum skunk2 head stuff...
    his car is at 1900lbs n sum change gutted.... i kept up with him in meh gutted ej2 d15 with
    intake, header/test pipe, and hks hi power cat back... id boost the d or go 1st gen b16
    well everybody has their own opinion its up to the op what he wants to do
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    hmm.. not really an opinion.. fact. but i knw, do what ya want man! as long as you r happy with ya work..whateva that may be!!!

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    hows the build comein along

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOCLUE
    hows the build comein along
    he never started on it
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    i will be happy wit trust me thanks guys for everything
    it in progress as we speak thanks everyone agian
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerseyef9
    i will be happy wit trust me thanks guys for everything
    it in progress as we speak thanks everyone agian
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    Man i would just boost that d series not to mention it will still drive like stock.u spend 2-4k on making it all motor when u can just spend 2k and put down 230whp if not more on stock internals
    I check sluts off my list like a maintnence man
    I drive a low is3 just so it gives me a reason to drive super slow on these rough ga roads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stay_up
    Man i would just boost that d series not to mention it will still drive like stock.u spend 2-4k on making it all motor when u can just spend 2k and put down 230whp if not more on stock internals
    more fun spanking people n/a wit a single cam
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    well you start off with this.. i was doing some research and if you use pm7(jdm ZC) pistons in that block and the z6 head with I,H,E 68mm throttle body, skunk 2 intake mani and adjustable cam gear that d series will make more power then a lightly modded b16. start with that and work your way up! d series blocks are dime a dozen.


    with this setup you will yeild around 150whp and 111wtq for under 1k
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    Quote Originally Posted by HatchHero
    well you start off with this.. i was doing some research and if you use pm7(jdm ZC) pistons in that block and the z6 head with I,H,E 68mm throttle body, skunk 2 intake mani and adjustable cam gears that d series will make more power then a lightly modded b16. start with that and work your way up! d series blocks are dime a dozen.


    with this setup you will yeild around 150whp and 111wtq for under 1k
    Why would you use a 68mm throttle body that is way overkill for an n/a sohc unless you dont want any bottom end torque what so ever stock is plenty enough for n/a
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    Quote Originally Posted by allmotorX
    Why would you use a 68mm throttle body that is way overkill for an n/a sohc unless you dont want any bottom end torque what so ever stock is plenty enough for n/a
    u wont hit 150 whp without it and sure not gonna hit it with a stock one, hondas were built for revvin high. plus its in a ef hatch right? which weights nothing. it will move pretty good! i mean this guy is talking about a single stick bro



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    Quote Originally Posted by HatchHero
    u wont hit 150 whp without it and sure not gonna hit it with a stock one, hondas were built for revvin high. plus its in a ef hatch right? which weights nothing. it will move pretty good! i mean this guy is talking about a single stick bro
    Wanna make a bet on that there are planty of people on d-series.org making 150 plus with just a bseries 60mm throttle body so there is no need for a 68mm hrottle body on a sohc engine
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    yeah and they probably have more mods done on those engines then what i listed!! i listed a cheap build for under 1k nothing more or nothing less!



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    Quote Originally Posted by allmotorX
    he never started on it
    whats the hold up I got the single cam in my white hatch.Would love to something up with this guy see if he drives and good as he types.
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    i be glad too dumb bitch
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