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    Default LS HELP!

    What can i do to make my Ls motor stronger. I'm not fixing to do a LS/VTEC or anything. LMK GUYS. thanks.

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    no body?

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    find a gsr swap


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    boost. nitrous. crash and get insurance money? ;]

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    ducky- i would but no cash
    xdavidscenex- but my insurance will go up. =(

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    obd1 or obd2? if ur obd2 like me, then ur shit out of luck unless you do a obd2 to obd1 conversion...but u'd fail emission right off the bat.

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    throw a different tranny on there and it should run alot better.

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    ^^^GSR tranny would work, as long as you don't boost.

    Basics: Intake, Header, Exhaust.

    I suggest you don't cheap out on those parts though, you'll regret it in the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaotianAsn4
    ^^^GSR tranny would work, as long as you don't boost.

    Basics: Intake, Header, Exhaust.

    I suggest you don't cheap out on those parts though, you'll regret it in the end.

    AGREE

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    i/h/e gsr tranny with a good clutch


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    Quote Originally Posted by no mo hondas
    i/h/e gsr tranny with a good clutch
    It'll still be slow, thats what I had on my LS. DC headers, Full exhaust, and AEM V2 with full MSD ignition. I'd say boost it with good cams and your insurance won't go up if you don't tell them
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    LS/VTEC is a waste of money if your not gonna change out the tranny. Without a B16/GSR/TYPER tranny you'll be running almost like an LS, but you'll just have VTEC. I would personally go LS/VTEC+GSR TRANNY for everday driving, but like everyone else said its really just personal perference. I say stay LS untill you can fully built your motor because theres no sense in doing VTEC+B16/GSR/TYPER tranny. You'll still be slow.

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    brian crower dual valve springs, port and polished head, ported intake manifold, crower 404 stage 3 cams which I have for sale...=) if your interested in anything I just stated just hit me up 6784573292(cortland)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jadakid88
    brian crower dual valve springs, port and polished head, ported intake manifold, crower 404 stage 3 cams which I have for sale...=) if your interested in anything I just stated just hit me up 6784573292(cortland)
    if he isnt willing to do a ls/vtec i doubt he is willing to do this.


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    ummm sell it! and buy a bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech5
    ummm sell it! and buy a bike!
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    haha. thanks guys. but what is yet better, a GSR tranny or SI tranny? but yea, i think im going to just change out the tranny, and get some good clutch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hmong_Spec
    haha. thanks guys. but what is yet better, a GSR tranny or SI tranny? but yea, i think im going to just change out the tranny, and get some good clutch.
    smalls thats all personal preference.


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    Quote Originally Posted by no mo hondas
    smalls thats all personal preference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hmong_Spec
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    yes its up to u. both are used for different things. so u really cant compare them unless u have a goal in mind other than make it stronger.


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    well, which one will be better. i always hear people arguing which one is best. heard that GSR locks at 125?



    Quote Originally Posted by no mo hondas
    yes its up to u. both are used for different things. so u really cant compare them unless u have a goal in mind other than make it stronger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowIt
    i'm assuming he just wants to keep up with the rest of the pack. Not go so fast but not slow either, I'd say stick to a b16 tranny, slapp some bolt ons, I/H/E 2 1/2" str8 pipe! no resonator! and a little NOS and your GOOD!! you sure ask alot of nooBoo questions. suggest you should ask jimboo for some advice! 8D
    Why ask me?

    Honestly IMO trying to make an B18A/B run fast all motor is a waste of money. I'm not saying it's impossible to go fast, but I'm saying it'll have it's limits in the end leaving you wanting more. I say you have a few options: spraying, boosting, LS/VTEC, or selling it and getting a B18C.

    But also as stated before you have to have a goal in mind. Do you want something that'll be fun to drive and kind of fast, or do you want something to whoop some ass on the streets?

    Oh and a heads up, whatever route you choose, don't go cheap.

    Quote Originally Posted by hmong_Spec
    haha. thanks guys. but what is yet better, a GSR tranny or SI tranny? but yea, i think im going to just change out the tranny, and get some good clutch.
    Depends on what you're looking for.

    Gsr tranny is good for everyday driving since the gears aren't so short. Yet it is still shorter than the LS, which will probably give you a little go fast.

    The B16 is great if you want some quick shifts and a little more go fast, but it isn't to great driving down the highway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hmong_Spec
    haha. thanks guys. but what is yet better, a GSR tranny or SI tranny? but yea, i think im going to just change out the tranny, and get some good clutch.
    si tranny with lsd...short gear ratio...thats if you don't boost....gsr and ls is almost the same...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eg4LiFe
    si tranny with lsd...short gear ratio...thats if you don't boost....gsr and ls is almost the same...
    They're actually alot different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DC2NR
    They're actually alot different.
    they are some wat diff. but i was reffering to the gear ratio. my bad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eg4LiFe
    they are some wat diff. but i was reffering to the gear ratio. my bad...
    even then they are different


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eg4LiFe
    they are some wat diff. but i was reffering to the gear ratio. my bad...
    you may want to do a little research first. They are not the same at all, the only thing that is the same is the final drive with all USDM b-series tranny, which is 4.4 btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eg4LiFe
    si tranny with lsd...short gear ratio...thats if you don't boost....gsr and ls is almost the same...

    ls and gsr have the same 1st and 2nd gear ratio but after tat there different if i remember right

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    LSD type r transmission!


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    your missing my point what is your goal for the car.


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    i'm assuming he just wants to keep up with the rest of the pack. Not go so fast but not slow either, I'd say stick to a b16 tranny, slapp some bolt ons, I/H/E 2 1/2" str8 pipe! no resonator! and a little NOS and your GOOD!! you sure ask alot of nooBoo questions. suggest you should ask jimboo for some advice! 8D
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    well, to be honest, i really have no idea what my goal is. i guess fast, but at the same time it wont break my car. iono, i really guess anything good. i caould use everybody help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hmong_Spec
    well, to be honest, i really have no idea what my goal is. i guess fast, but at the same time it wont break my car. iono, i really guess anything good. i caould use everybody help.
    fast and LS don't go together, sorry but its the truth.

    There are ways, but the cost is outrageous. For example, and N/A build will cost almost twice as much than if you chose boost. Breaking 170ish-180sih whp in a LS vs the cost would not be worth it, even with some nice cams, and a bump in compression. You would also have to get tuned if you installed anything other than stage 1 cams (most aftermarket stage 1 cams have stock idle characteristics), which will cost more after the tune.

    LS/V- the easiest way to extract power from your motor. Your LS shortblock has a slightly longer stroke than a gsr block which is the reason why your TQ is higher. Cost would be around $500-1000 to get the job done, i.e. Golden eagle ls/v kit, vtec head. Problem is the tranny, you will need to invest in a diff. tranny which will end up costing more.

    N/A LS- very costly and doesn't make that much power. If you're aiming to break 200whp, then its going to cost you $$$$$$. Still need a tranny in this case too, the stock tranny is garbage for n/a.

    Boost/spray- makes the most power out of the 3, the cost vs power gains makes sense because you could piece together a decent kit for under $1000. The ls tranny is suitable for this setup. You can run a basemap for daily driving if tuning is an issue. Phearable.net has some really good basemaps.

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    we can give u ideas. without a goal in mind its kinda a waste of time. me personal love gsr trannys they give u the best of both the ls and b16. an with no goal your better off playing it safe with i/h/e no tranny for now.


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    aigh, well in this case. ima jus save up money, and do a ls/vtec

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    intake header exhaust


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    Your tranny is killing you....

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    how is it killing me?



    Quote Originally Posted by punkr6
    Your tranny is killing you....

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    Quote Originally Posted by hmong_Spec
    how is it killing me?
    ls tranny are geared longer. great for boost bad for all motor.


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