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  1. 01-30-2009, 11:15 AM #1
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    Default B16a build

    B16a with CTR pistons, Type R cams or Stage 2 after market cams... Header,exhaust,intake, ect....


    ANy ideas? suggestions? comment?

    Pros and Cons??

    i need some feedback... do you guys think this would be goood.. or not a ideal setup??

    just want to know about valve clearence and ect?
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  2. 01-30-2009, 12:46 PM #2
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    FIrst question... What are your goals? What are you going for?
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  3. 01-30-2009, 01:49 PM #3
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    yeah whats your hp goal
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    I think for the price of type-Rs might as well just get aftermarkets.And headers I say get some from Vteckidd they seem to be pretty cheap if the dynos are real then its a cheap spend for a decent gain.
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    We already got the type-Rs and i think the headers are from Vteckidd
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    i allready vteckidd header and ect.. i just baught CTR pistons and im wanting to get some cams... my head is allready built... just looking for cams....


    my goal? im not trying to make crazy HP , i just want to know if the CTR pistons will go good with cams... clearance!

    thanks..
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    ctr's would be ideal for a nice set of cams due to the compression. Have you considered using skunk2 tuner series (not pro series)?

    Toda spec A's make decent power on a b16 too, I think I've seen 170-180ish on honda-tech. Yes I know they are outdated, but they have been proven.

    As far as clearance goes, just clay your motor if you're worried about valve to piston clearance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IntegraXTR
    ctr's would be ideal for a nice set of cams due to the compression. Have you considered using skunk2 tuner series (not pro series)?

    Toda spec A's make decent power on a b16 too, I think I've seen 170-180ish on honda-tech. Yes I know they are outdated, but they have been proven.

    As far as clearance goes, just clay your motor if you're worried about valve to piston clearance.
    Good info.

    Don't over due it on the cam homey. You said you got the head built... did you the head milled??? If you did, too much cam is just hoping to get clearance issues. Stick with proven shyt, and you'll be very happy with a STREETABLE built motor.
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    dude...just run PRO 3's...
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    just keep it stock and spray when needed.
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    The B16 itself is a con; wek sos 1.6.
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    im sorry im not familiar with.. "clay" your motor??

    o and COMP stage 2 cams or Crower cams? what about those???? LMK

    O and CTR cams should be fine also rite???

    thanks everyone.
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  13. 02-03-2009, 02:01 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinT707
    The B16 itself is a con; wek sos 1.6.


    SHIT its fine for ME... better than the old SOHC BS!!
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    Run of thumb...

    Never go into a b16 block. It's not worth the outcome. So if you plan to rebuild something atleast get a cheap $100 LS block and use your b16 head.

    Now to get the most out of a stock bottom end b16, I would buy every bolt-on you can possibly get.

    -ITR intake manifold and TB
    -3in intake with velocity stack
    -Toda header (or a knockoff Toda header) Do not get a 1.8L+ header like the one Vteckidd sells (don't take this the wrong way Mike just trying to help dude make power out of his 1.6)
    -Test Pipe and 2.5in exhaust

    Then you can work on the head with
    -Cams (CTR, Buddyclub III, Skunk2 stage 1) Those work with stock valvetrain
    or
    (Skunk2 stage 2 or Buddyclub IV) with aftermarket valvetrain
    There's other cams out there like JUN or Toda, but they aren't worth the price.
    -Valve job and port work

    The most important mod you can do is get tuned also. So plan to convert to obd1 and get tune.

    The best thing about all of that, you can transfer everything over to another motor once you decide to upgrade (which you will decide to do ) Hopefully that helps.
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    Just fyi

    I made 156hp/110lbs 2 years ago on Mainstream's Dyno, untuned (obd0) with just bolt-ons, and a CTR intake cam/b16 exhaust cam revving to 8200. Now with the CTR exhaust cam, new exhaust, and finally some tuning, I hopefully I can touch 165-170hp or atleast make 115-120lbs of tq LOL.
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  17. 02-03-2009, 11:07 PM #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdare23
    I made 156hp/110lbs 2 years ago on Mainstream's Dyno, untuned (obd0) with just bolt-ons, and a CTR intake cam/b16 exhaust cam revving to 8200. Now with the CTR exhaust cam, new exhaust, and finally some tuning, I hopefully I can touch 165-170hp or atleast make 115-120lbs of tq LOL.
    Before my B16 spun a bearing (running nitrous) in like 05-06 (before you made 156 whp), it put down 150whp/110tq on Mainstream's Dyno tuned (OBD0) but I had slightly less mods too. Anyway point is that it's still slow & that you will not make 165-170hp with 115-120tq!
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  18. 02-04-2009, 08:15 AM #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinT707
    Before my B16 spun a bearing (running nitrous) in like 05-06 (before you made 156 whp), it put down 150whp/110tq on Mainstream's Dyno tuned (OBD0) but I had slightly less mods too. Anyway point is that it's still slow & that you will not make 165-170hp with 115-120tq!

    It's possible

    I talked to a heavy hitter (I'll leave his name out) on the board about an old b16 build (stock bottom end) he did in the past. He was able to get 175hp (but less than 120lbs tq) out of his b16 with less mods than me (but a slightly bigger cam). So power is possible with the right tuner


    Also, Guy made 148hp with just a header and exhaust. So it's about quality too
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdare23
    Just fyi

    I made 156hp/110lbs 2 years ago on Mainstream's Dyno, untuned (obd0) with just bolt-ons, and a CTR intake cam/b16 exhaust cam revving to 8200. Now with the CTR exhaust cam, new exhaust, and finally some tuning, I hopefully I can touch 165-170hp or atleast make 115-120lbs of tq LOL.
    See you there buddy I should be making around 160 tuned also.
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    thanks guys... i have ecu and all that good stuff. just wanted to know if the ctr pistons would be good with bigger cams... thanks...

    yea i know the B16 doesnt make TOO much power but its good for what im wanting rite now!!! More builds coming soon...


    So all in all.. Im just gonna get some type R's or stage ll cams...

    IF ANYONE KNOWS A GOOD DEAL ON CAMS LET ME KNOW ASAP!!! thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by southside
    See you there buddy I should be making around 160 tuned also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black4DrEK
    thanks guys... i have ecu and all that good stuff. just wanted to know if the ctr pistons would be good with bigger cams... thanks...

    yea i know the B16 doesnt make TOO much power but its good for what im wanting rite now!!! More builds coming soon...


    So all in all.. Im just gonna get some type R's or stage ll cams...

    IF ANYONE KNOWS A GOOD DEAL ON CAMS LET ME KNOW ASAP!!! thanks

    And to answer your original question, you shouldn't run into any problem running ctr pistons in a b16 block
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    no no no, I know the block is fine, would they be fine with the Bigger CAM??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black4DrEK
    no no no would they be fine with the Bigger CAM??

    Yes
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    ^preciate it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black4DrEK
    no no no, I know the block is fine, would they be fine with the Bigger CAM??
    Think twice about that if the cams are too big you will have problems with clearance and P2V contact. Just my
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    i know man... that why im not going to BIG... Type R is good rite? im not getting stage lll or nuthing like that.. stage ll too much?>??
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    Dude you dont have anything to worry anything with type r cams.
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    ....you wouldn't even have issues running some BC spec Vs...

    the biggest thing when running big cams is timing. Almost anything will work as long as everything is at 0 degrees.... it's when you start advancing and retarding stuff is when you can run into clearance issues.

    ...just my experience
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    Quote Originally Posted by se7en
    ....you wouldn't even have issues running some BC spec Vs...

    the biggest thing when running big cams is timing. Almost anything will work as long as everything is at 0 degrees.... it's when you start advancing and retarding stuff is when you can run into clearance issues.

    ...just my experience
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