Quote Originally Posted by Glides
Usually your responses are very thoughtful and right on the money. This one though..... .

Rotaries are VERY reliable....as long as you take freaking care of them. IE Change your fucking oil. A Non-turbo Rotary will take WAY more pounding, hard driving and plain ass kicking than any piston engine hands down. I've Solo'd numerous Rotaries and EVERY time I run in the redline, buzzer screaming for 2 to 3 minutes, a time, 5 to 6 times a day.

Now. A Turbo Rotary will ALSO last. My first FD. 138,000 on the original motor, trans, wiring harnes (Which is amazing). What was the secret to longevity? Taking care of it. The problem most Rotary drivers had with the stock 3rd gen was that they paid over 40k for the thing, treated it like a supercar, parked it in their garage and let it sit without starting it on a weekly basis. You can do that with a piston engine, you cannot do that with a Rotary. They get in them after 6 months down, crak it over, hit the street and blow up through the power with a cold engine....pop goes the seal.

So. You are completely wrong. It's not the engines fault, it's the jackasses that owned them and didn't treat them like they should haves fault. End of rant.

Ok, let me paraphrase in another way so you can better understand what i meant.

Let me begin by saying that i never said rotaries are unreliable and or any other points your rant brought up.

I'm assuming you misinterpreted my use of the word "failure."

Quote Originally Posted by EJ25RUN
The Rotary has already proved itself as a failure when it comes to mass production. The Rotary will meet the same faith as did two stroke motorbikes.

What that meant was in the modern automotive industry, it is much harder to get a rotary to be as versatile as a piston engine. Forget our enthusiast culture for a second and look at the average person who could care less about cars. Owning a rotary in their eyes is an unnecessary burden. 90% of car buyers don't care that much about performance.

Mazda has used this in creating a niche market all to itself with the rotary engine. In my eyes, THAT is the failure.

Other car brands have experimented with it but that has all come to nothing because an equal investment in a piston engine holds promise for a much better reward. Nissan's VQ35 is a good example because so many Nissans and Renaults were powered by it. This has much higher profit potential. A rotary could never be that versatile. It lives as a powerplant for enthusiasts.

This is where my example of two strokes comes form. 500cc and 250cc motorbikes died about 15 years ago all over the world because 1. they don't work on the street, 2. their powerbands are terrible 3. the emissions are a joke by 1980 standards.

So you see? The reason i consider a rotary a failure is not because some owners need proper training to be allowed in purchasing it. No, it is because over the last century, Rotarys were simply not good enough engineering wise to work in the real world. Otherwise, more rotary engines would be on the market today.