No Launch Control for 2010+ GTR

[Kaiser]

You can do all the complaining you want when you spend good money for an expensive product. Just my It's not really a good idea, IMO, to do any R&D on your customers dime. Just imagine if our shop said, "We have this new bad ass turbo like none you have ever seen. It's going to kick all of the other turbo's asses! AND it's going to cost you $5k, but if you want to buy it first you will have to pay about MSRP to be first." Then our customers get it and it makes no power or breaks when you boost. Do you honestly think we could just say, "Oh well. It was a brand new product, screw all of you who bought it first. You should have known there would be some issues and that's your bad. It says right in the fine print that the turbo was not really meant to boost. But no worries, thanks to all of your complaints, we're going to improve it for the next round of buyers. It will actually boost this time. You, on the other hand, are fucked and we aren't going to warranty it."

I think we might be in a whole lot of trouble.

Just my take on it.

Your take on it, takes things to the bizarre far end of the logic-train involved here. Nissan obviously doesn't feel the transmission is bad, instead they feel that idiot users who feel the need to flap their e-peens in the launch-control induced winds don't deserve to have their transmissions replaced and thus they're simply going to remove the feature altogether, which is the right move in my book, it should never have been there to begin with (But hey, then people would bitch about not having it, you never win do you?).

Second: Hard launching it might break the trans, but because the VDC won't have been repeatedly disabled (Especially during the break-in period of the engine and trans) it will still be covered.

Third: Almost every car in existence has gone through mid-production changes to fix problems. Early NA Miatas had shortnose cranks, later ones had longnose cranks for example. If you were one of the first to buy a Miata, how pissed would you have been to find out that they fixed the problem later? Well, that's what you get, isn't it?

[EJ25RUN]

I'm all for this.

Launch Control = talentless driver. All that is left is that computer 4wd turning into a real man's setup.

[Tracy]

Your take on it, takes things to the bizarre far end of the logic-train involved here. Nissan obviously doesn't feel the transmission is bad, instead they feel that idiot users who feel the need to flap their e-peens in the launch-control induced winds don't deserve to have their transmissions replaced and thus they're simply going to remove the feature altogether, which is the right move in my book, it should never have been there to begin with (But hey, then people would bitch about not having it, you never win do you?).

Second: Hard launching it might break the trans, but because the VDC won't have been repeatedly disabled (Especially during the break-in period of the engine and trans) it will still be covered.

Third: Almost every car in existence has gone through mid-production changes to fix problems. Early NA Miatas had shortnose cranks, later ones had longnose cranks for example. If you were one of the first to buy a Miata, how pissed would you have been to find out that they fixed the problem later? Well, that's what you get, isn't it?

I don't really care about the details of the mechanism or the history of auto production, to be honest. That's taking it way to deep for me. I almost care about the overall point, which is, IMO: It's not cool to R&D on the publics dime especially on a car that costs that much. If they are going to make those changes, then they should grandfather the first round of buyers and their warranties. If that's what they are doing and I missed it...then silly me and I am sorry. Otherwise, Like I said – I'd be pissed and that is only my 2 cents. So, don't take it too seriously. I'm not.

[87 Turbo II]

I don't really care about the details of the mechanism or the history of auto production, to be honest. That's taking it way to deep for me. I almost care about the overall point, which is, IMO: It's not cool to R&D on the publics dime especially on a car that costs that much. If they are going to make those changes, then they should grandfather the first round of buyers and their warranties. If that's what they are doing and I missed it...then silly me and I am sorry. Otherwise, Like I said – I'd be pissed and that is only my 2 cents. So, don't take it too seriously. I'm not.

Well, they were also told not to turn VDC off, so I still find it hard to complain. Also, the R&D isn't planned to be on he customers dime, things just show up and need fixing as things go along. It's not like htey released the GTR and said "now let's wait to see what problems arise", they already nailed as many as they could forsee, and now they're tackling the ones they couldn't forsee. Recalls are one thing to pay back for a seriously faulty part, but the customers screwed themselves when they decided to drive it hard using the computer's skills.