Quote Originally Posted by punkr6
if you have a choice get the b18c1-gsr-...b16 are very weak becouse of the rod stroke,if youv'e seen the lil b16 rod you would laff,the l/s rod is thicker and has a longer stroke,thats why ls/vtec makes so much power.
what you said makes no sense. Can you tell me what a good rod stroke ratio is then please?
B16 rods are stronger that LS. how many stock LS motors do you know that rev to 8500-9000RPMS and actually last? duh, ill answer that for you, NONE.
Vtec Rods use a Better Rod Bearing that wont deteriate or flake at high rpms like LS rod bearings will, LS rods are thinner than VTEC rods and use a smaller Rod Bolt.

b16 are cheaper by about a grand but you'll be happier if you go ahead and spend the extra dough
LS Swaps are MUCH cheaper than a B16. B16 comes with MORE horspower, VTEC, closer geared transmission. full swaps still run $2000-2500. LS swaps are a dime a dozen , they run $700-1800 depending on year an mileage. GSRs are much more expensive now adays, as high as $3700 still.

i personally have had a ls/vtec in a ef hatch,a gsr in a ek hatch and am installing a b18c1 currently in my eg coupe,a lot of my friends have had the lil b16 and thay are a lot slower,hondas are known for high rpm's and no torque.do yourself a favor and start off with as much as you can. TRUST YO MAC DADDY
How much more TQ does an LS really have over a B16? 7-10 Ft/LBs AT THE MOST.

well you said it yourself, hondas are known for high redlines and no TQ, so why not go with the B16 that has a HIGHER redline and MORE power than a B18A/B? you know how hard it is to make a LS make 170whp? like $5000.you know how easy is to make a B16 or GSR make 170whp, BOLT ons. less than $1500.

I personally would rather spend the money on neither and go for a GSR, but if you dont have the money, I would go with a B16 over an LS any day. Vtec always makes more power than Non Vtec, and closer geared trannys always are better than longer unless your a EXTREMELY highly boosted car.

So once again i stand behind
B18C1>b16>B18a/b

someone please argue with me with something more than "my boi had a Fast LS y0 It WuZ MaD JDm 3rd Gare VtECAKCKCKCKCKkk"