I know its too expensive and no one really thinks its worth it. But check this video out, might change your tunes.
http://fifthgear.five.tv/jsp/5gmain....+v+Honda+S2000
Mugen Civic RR
I know its too expensive and no one really thinks its worth it. But check this video out, might change your tunes.
http://fifthgear.five.tv/jsp/5gmain....+v+Honda+S2000
I absolutly LOVE the civic rr
Originally Posted by Echonova
if only i had the money
Nice civic, but going fast in fwd car is pointless. RWD/AWD FTW!
And this comparison is horrible. A stock car v a modded car LOL. The civic better win...
i dont think its pointless...i think its pretty impressive, especially when a 4dr fwd car can beat a sports car like the s2000. and whats really immperssive is that its not turbo or supah charged. NA power is really impressive to me...although i think they choose na cuz since it is fwd and if they were to put some sort of boost on it it would get torque steer.
I asked a girl if i could buy her a drink, she said I have a boyfriend, so I said, well i have a goldfish, she said what? I replied, oh I'm sorry I thought we were talking about shit that doesnt matter.
FWD going fast is far from pointless, and people who say a FWD can't handle like a RWD are just not very informed.
Still costs a lot, looks like a$$(IMHO) and the name sounds like something a stuttering pirate would say. I hate how worked up people get over a civic. A compact commuter car with a TON of money invested in R&D and tuning. Big whoop, even if the S2000 lost, I'd rather be in something that was a sports car back on the drawing board then as an afterthought.
^^ Yeah, I drew a frame of a man running on each fan blade. That is him running at idle
Completely agree with you here. Ok, it beat an S2000. Isn't it 60k? I mean **** give me any model of civic and 60k and you're god damn right I'll spank an s2k anyplace anytime.
hellz yea its over priced like crazy but still its pretty cool that it could beat it with a smaller motor and the whole fwd thing.
I asked a girl if i could buy her a drink, she said I have a boyfriend, so I said, well i have a goldfish, she said what? I replied, oh I'm sorry I thought we were talking about shit that doesnt matter.
It is an impressive car, I'm not necessarily downing it or anything but it shouldn't be 60k. It's just paying for the Mugen brand name. And I really don't consider fwd bringing a vaild argument, a fwd car can be made to handle extremely well for far less than what you would pay for a Mugen RR. Just my.
hell yea i know what you mean. mugen chit is expensive for no reason.It is an impressive car, I'm not necessarily downing it or anything but it shouldn't be 60k. It's just paying for the Mugen brand name. And I really don't consider fwd bringing a vaild argument, a fwd car can be made to handle extremely well for far less than what you would pay for a Mugen RR. Just my
I asked a girl if i could buy her a drink, she said I have a boyfriend, so I said, well i have a goldfish, she said what? I replied, oh I'm sorry I thought we were talking about shit that doesnt matter.
Geez, and I thought Hyundais new $30,000 family cars were over priced....
I would own you AGAIN...but you refuse to consider what anyone else says so here.
WTCC....BTCC....JTCC....Super Touring II....Speed Touring
Go learn about those, then we'll discuss your "opinion"
Nice traveled donkey, but I'd still buy a horse.
I don't know what wtcc...or whatever that is, and it's irrelevant. I've driven fwd, rwd, and awd cars. FWD def pales in comparison for "fun factor." And I thought you care about the "fun factor" of cars ej, as you say the gt-r wouldn't be fun because it's not offered in a stick...
Have putting 250whp though the wheels that are also steering your car makes no damn sense. Have you ever hit boost in a fwd car with 250whp going through a turn? It's not fun.
Rwd is mah ****...and please tell me how some1's opinion can be wrong, that is an oxymoron is itself...
lol @ nice civic. Much rather have a bmw...EJ, no offense, but I think sometimes you like to argue not to prove a point, but rather jsut to argue...
^LOL I seriously laugh everytime you post you have NOOOO idea what you are talking about. If you can drive then you won't have many problems with not having fun in a FWD car.
I thought Maxima's were FWD...??
Watch this.....What does an F1 world champion Nigel Mansell do after F1 and Indy cars?....race FWD touring cars.I don't know what wtcc...or whatever that is, and it's irrelevant. I've driven fwd, rwd, and awd cars. FWD def pales in comparison for "fun factor." And I thought you care about the "fun factor" of cars ej, as you say the gt-r wouldn't be fun because it's not offered in a stick...
Have putting 250whp though the wheels that are also steering your car makes no damn sense. Have you ever hit boost in a fwd car with 250whp going through a turn? It's not fun.
Rwd is mah ****...and please tell me how some1's opinion can be wrong, that is an oxymoron is itself...
lol @ nice civic. Much rather have a bmw...EJ, no offense, but I think sometimes you like to argue not to prove a point, but rather jsut to argue...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-R665bquMg
RIP David Leslie
Some more from the greatest era.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFfcNvwTk_U
Murray Walker announcing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCij9mYIokA
oh btw...
BTCC British Touring Car Championship
WTCC World Touring Car Championship
JTCC Japan Touring car Championship
Super Touring II - FIA Regualtions introduced in 1994 to replace group A
No, i just feel i got some good evidence to counter that FWD is not as fun. Mid 90's Touring car racing proved that to me.Much rather have a bmw...EJ, no offense, but I think sometimes you like to argue not to prove a point, but rather jsut to argue...
I bet you don't know that the B16 was put on the street in the mid 80's so Honda could go homoligate it against the 4age from Toyota in Japanese group A.
Last edited by EJ25RUN; 09-27-2008 at 01:23 PM.
nice vid!... never tought they would be able to make a stock civic that was faster than a S2000
Last edited by Gorilla Eg!; 09-27-2008 at 02:50 PM.
civic FTW
sk2 FTL
dont hate on me....simply been proven in this video !!!
Wtb 96-00 civic aftermarket struts asap
my thoughts exactly.
The real maximas were RWD. Then they switched to FWD and lost everything.
Ok, I'm finding "hating" on you too hard to resist right now. So you're honestly going to tell me that just because some 60k civic beats a STOCK FACTORY s2k now it's "s2k ftl"? Come on dude, give me an s2k, subtract the difference from 60k and give me the rest to mod it without a single Mugen part and watch me run circles around a Mugen RR. Looks like we got another JDM fanboy here.
Last edited by alpine_xj; 09-28-2008 at 03:44 PM.
They are fwd, but you don't see me trying to get fast lap times in my car...my thoughts exactly.
My car gets me to school and back, nothing more, nothing less.
x2 s2k is a much better car than any civic. sports car > economy car
eh,civcs should never get out of the 20k range,thier nice cars in that range....but really 60k civic or 60k Z06?
Or m3, or Porsche, or.....who knows. The Mugen RR is a pointless car at that price.
Last edited by alpine_xj; 09-28-2008 at 03:44 PM.
seats look pretty pimp. sounds good too
nice... now sell it the same price as the si and we're golden
You really are a dumb ass lol, when did you get into cars? Last year?They are fwd, but you don't see me trying to get fast lap times in my car...
My car gets me to school and back, nothing more, nothing less.These guys try going fast in their FWD cars...
Nice numbers, but that car is hideous. The front bumper needs some serious redesigning, the tails are Accord-ish, and the wing is massive. I dunno, I just don't like it.
It sounded good though.
Here's another one from Alan MenuYou really are a dumb ass lol, when did you get into cars? Last year?
David Leslie Primera.
I'm taking over.......My fav FWD thread (yes they are all race cars...dont care)
Love the civic but that price range is way out of range for a civic.
cars
integra 90 ls
integra 92 gsr b20v turbo
integra 00 ls
infiniti i35 02
you did read that that all 300 were sold out in 10 mins right?
So obviously not out of range of a Civic. Just out of YOUR range.
Do you think it's worth 60k? Just curious, no douchebaggery here.
edit: I didn't know they made so few of them. I guess it's more of a collector's item. Not to down the performance, but in that aspect I don't think it's worth the money.
Last edited by alpine_xj; 09-29-2008 at 08:33 PM.
What happens if Mugen gives an S2K the same treatment? Mugen S2K RR? Now we account for the Mugen brand price jump, say $80K.
I'm allergic to pistons.
4,700,000.00 JPY = 45,286.67 USD
Is it worth 45+ Grand? YES.
Here is why. I have read about 15+ publications from Japan, Europe, and even the U.S. magazines that have gotten their hands on that car.
It is being called the best fwd car ever made.
Now i have read a few of your posts and gather some things about your thinking. You are not a fan of fwd cars. So from the very start, you are gonna give this car a negative eye without caring to really go through and see what makes what.
Now it obviously isn't gonna cost Mugen 45K to build it. But that is where they make their profit just like any other company would when they make something special. But they aren't throwing a kit on a car and lettinging out the door either. And Mugen ranks much higher in the tuner world than even HKS and Trust. Remember Mugen has made F1 engines in their past and are currently responsible for building the SuperGT GT500 C32 for all the NSXs.
That is something that can be compared to Henry Royce putting your engine together. Everything at that high of a level costs a premium. There is no way you will like that car if you dislike fwd. But that car represents what the current gen Honda Civic can be.
To all the people talking about the S2K being a great drivers car: This is why me and Simon are trying to make a point on why so many race series continue to use FWD touring cars. They are more fun and provide better racing.
Idk but have you ever driven say the Mugen 4 door SI? It's a pretty damn impressive 30k Civic. Not sure about the RR I mean I am sure it's 25x better but saying just because it's Mugen doesn't mean that's why the price is high, some real good development goes into these.
I will honestly go all out, and say just the Mugen 4 door SI was as fun, if not more fun, then a S2K. I have driven both fairly hard. I honestly was sold on the Mugen SI if I had the money.
Didn't expect this long of a retort. I'm not against FWD by any means, in all likelihood my next car will be FWD. I would just prefer RWD or AWD, but I'm not going to be able to afford one that would really fit what I'm looking for right now. Everyone was saying it costs 60k, 45 is more reasonable I suppose. Thanks for filling me in.
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