WHY does everyone seem let down by the GTR

[ATL_EG]

the only thing i don't like about the gtr is the tranny, i just can't see how the driving expirience could be the same

buuut if i had the $80k i'd more than likely pick one up

[alpine_aw11]

gt-r is da ****. period

it runs on par with lambos, ferrari's, porches, zo6's in 0-60, at a cheaper cost.

People just dont like to recognize...

the gt-r is a sophisticated automobile...all around...people just like to hate...

and this is the truth...people love to hate on others...

Typical GTR fanboy argument. Yes, it's fast. Faster than most. Overall it's a huge advancement in automotive technology. Does that mean everyone's going to blow their load when they see one like you would? Definitely not. It's not about the fact that it isn't an amazing car, it's about how they made it that way. Everyone has this dumb argument that someone can't say a GTR doesn't have the true driving experience because they'll never drive one. It's stupid, anyone can see from the technology it posesses that it does. It is far easier to control than most supercars are. Nissan will tell you that, and anyone who's driven a GTR will tell you that. Take an ACR for example, that thing won't correct itself for you if you **** up taking a corner. You have to take control of it, and the GTR eliminates having to do that. And the most obvious factor of all, paddle shifters ftl. Everyone has their own taste in what they want in a vehicle. Maybe you need to learn to recognize. BTW a zo6 is cheaper.

[EJ25RUN]

I took the time to read everyones post and some good points have been brought up but some points have been brought up too.

if i was gonna drop that much money on a performance car it better be beating everything else on the street

Street? You mean like street racing?......i'll give Nissan a call and see what they say about R&D for street racing.

You absolutely cannot do maintenance on a GTR in your driveway.

As a person that has quiet a bit of car sales experience, i think i can safely say that people that buy a $70K car, will never do anything on it themselves. Ever.

Remember when subaru/ mitsu was voiding warranties on cars that were registered with the Scca?

This has to do with your relationship with your dealer's service dept. SOG used to be terrible but the writers know i'm an scca member and turn the other cheek.

Dude, seriously. When a car gets to the point where firewall's are moved back and the chassis is totally altered....is it really anything like a stock car?

I see that R34 to be as close to stock as this does to a stock R35

lol find me a street legal R34 that will lap the ring under 7:29...

The only thing that even comes to mind is the Falken R34 that ran the Nurburgring 24 years back. That car is a race car but i guess if you tried to get it as close to a street car as possible you'd still be under 7:29



But, yeah JITB. I can think of no street R34 faster than that time.

One thing to understand, the new GTR isn't even classed the way the old ones were. This is marketed towards the same people who buy high end cars and exotics.

True. As another member posted before, Japanese cars have climb to the top of the mountain and are now capable of asking top dollar for their highest products. In the Group A days when you had to make 2500 street examples of a car to race, the GTR had to exist and be sold to the public. By the time the R33 came out, it had become a true model instead of a "we just have to sell it". By 2008, the GTR has earned a name that can stand alone. Past Skylines used the GTR name as the top model. But just like the Celica Supra split into two different cars, this is the story with the Skyline and the GTR.

[EJ25RUN]

What? the R34 weighed a ton compared to the competition and has TONs of electronics. Every GT-R from the R32 on got bigger, heavier with more gizmos.

The R34 was smaller than the R33. But overall you are correct. The RB26 Iron block I6 was too heavy to stay competitive and the GT500 car moved to a 3.0 TT v6.

Demand is huge, Nissan can't build enough.

LOL, Aint that the truth

Nissan raises R35 GTR MSRP by nearly $7,000

I totally agree the R34/33/32 are the ones for tuners. The R35 has a blackbox and as stated, tehy WILL void the warrenty at will if they want to. We have seen though people crack the box (Mine for example) and companies modify the car. BBS released 20 sets of LMs for the GT-R.

It will take time but people will do it.

I look at it differently. I see the R32 as the great development for Group A in 1989. Nissan took everything that worked already, and put it in a package that would effectively be the end of the sport. The R32 was Nissan's racing yardstick. It was never meant to be more than just another low production hyper car like the Cosworth Escort and Evo Mercedes 190.

About the tuners. Mines and MCR had their cars before they were released on the street so im sure Nissan had pretty much let them have first dibs.

Rule of thumb;
"You can be FASTEST around the track or you can be FUNNIEST around the track". There is a difference

Very true. This is why people like me believe in the H box transmission so much.

That is NOT the GT-Rs purpose. The purpose is to be Japanese "Godzilla" and lay waste to the competition in a bigger, badder kind of way. GT-R=Fastest around the track. That is what its trying to do.

I read the Godzilla name actually came from Australia when the R32 put the Holden/Ford V8's to shame and won both the 91 and 92 Bathurst 1000.

[Elbow]

Isn't the GT-R built as a cheap supercar that's supposed to outperform? Not a Tuner car like the old? If so then I guess all the old fashion people get their panties in a bunch when they see the cars they've loved for the past however many years and see it change for a group of people not like themselves. I dunno.

Yes like I said. And I agree that's one reason. But for me that's not the reason I am not a fan of it.

[HachiDori]

I think people in the US were upset because the skyline (r32,r33,r34) was never released here. Those are the "Gray market super cars" I'd love to rock a r32.

For some of us who don't have the wallet to modify, the R35 is damn near impossible to even get our hands on the " USDM" skyline.

Not too shabby for the ppl who can afford it!

[Got Milk?]

True, I feel where you're coming from homie.

[1SICKLEX]

The R34 was smaller than the R33. But overall you are correct. The RB26 Iron block I6 was too heavy to stay competitive and the GT500 car moved to a 3.0 TT v6.




LOL, Aint that the truth

Nissan raises R35 GTR MSRP by nearly $7,000



I look at it differently. I see the R32 as the great development for Group A in 1989. Nissan took everything that worked already, and put it in a package that would effectively be the end of the sport. The R32 was Nissan's racing yardstick. It was never meant to be more than just another low production hyper car like the Cosworth Escort and Evo Mercedes 190.

About the tuners. Mines and MCR had their cars before they were released on the street so im sure Nissan had pretty much let them have first dibs.



Very true. This is why people like me believe in the H box transmission so much.



I read the Godzilla name actually came from Australia when the R32 put the Holden/Ford V8's to shame and won both the 91 and 92 Bathurst 1000.

Good post, nothing to refute, I agree!! I do think the R34 is bigger than the R33 though...... but I could be wrong

[RL...]

eehhh If I was rich I'd buy an audi r8......

[EJ25RUN]

eehhh If I was rich I'd buy an audi r8......

i sat in one at the Audi driving experience yesterday. I could have drove it if i spent the $600 for the entire Audi experience but . The interior is amazing.