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**Motivation** · 08-17-2008, 11:26 PM

I think dieselnuts had the best sig... lol

something along the lines of... Vtec is like waiting for really bad sex...

(i'm not saying vtec is bad, but I think it is a little over-rated and people get their hopes up and it disappoints them when they test drive it. Most ppl get the idea that a stock engine with vtec throws them back in the seat when it hits... just my .02)

**alpine_aw11** · 08-18-2008, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by Motivation

I think dieselnuts had the best sig... lol

something along the lines of... Vtec is like waiting for really bad sex...

(i'm not saying vtec is bad, but I think it is a little over-rated and people get their hopes up and it disappoints them when they test drive it. Most ppl get the idea that a stock engine with vtec throws them back in the seat when it hits... just my .02)

Exactly, vtec is so overrated. It's cool and all, but everyone forgets that the engine is completely gutless before it hits, and even when it does it's still slow. 95% of the Hondas on here are slow as balls, they're just fun to drive.

**Terror** · 08-19-2008, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by alpine_xj

Exactly, vtec is so overrated. It's cool and all, but everyone forgets that the engine is completely gutless before it hits, and even when it does it's still slow. 95% of the Hondas on here are slow as balls, they're just fun to drive.

VTEC was designed to maximize power and efficiency of a small displacement motor. This is how they make a N/A 2.0l make 237 hp and so on and so fourth with the other motors. Its Hondas design of variable valve timing, it just so happens to be in many peoples opinion the best design. Im not sittin here bein like VTAAACK FO' LIFFEE!!! im just sayin my

**alpine_aw11** · 08-19-2008, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by untitled_001

VTEC was designed to maximize power and efficiency of a small displacement motor. This is how they make a N/A 2.0l make 237 hp and so on and so fourth with the other motors. Its Hondas design of variable valve timing, it just so happens to be in many peoples opinion the best design. Im not sittin here bein like VTAAACK FO' LIFFEE!!! im just sayin my

I know it's a good design, but a lot of idiots think VTAK makes their Honda fast, and it probably isn't at all. Nice s2k btw.

**RL...** · 08-19-2008, 09:25 PM

LOL I've been negative repped by so many people! I'm glad I could care less about being "cool" here. I drive a nissan so I don't expect to fit in. This thread must've gotten to a lot of people, truth hurts...

**EJ25RUN** · 08-20-2008, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by NissanTun3r

LOL I've been negative repped by so many people! I'm glad I could care less about being "cool" here. I drive a nissan so I don't expect to fit in. This thread must've gotten to a lot of people, truth hurts...

You wave the Nissan flag so confidently but you prolly dont even know that Nissan has VTEC too.

To the rest of you Vtec haters.

Honda was the first to mass produce a variable valve system in cars in the mid 80's. The B16 that was used in Group A as a homoligation motor and that technology is now 23 years old.

Most of you only look at straight line and highway street racing

for a cars overall. Instead, look at how Honda builds a type R vehicle from the get go. Balance is above all else. In those days, Honda's package was the best in the world. For years it was the 4AG in the Corolla vs the B16 in the Civic. The key in a Vtec system is how aggressive the set up is. You can get much more aggressive cams and build a a setup that makes power all the way to 10,000 rpm. It is potential and most of the quys on the street cant get it so they talk sh!t.

**1SICKLEX** · 08-20-2008, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by EJ25RUN

You wave the Nissan flag so confidently but you prolly dont even know that Nissan has VTEC too.

To the rest of you Vtec haters.

Honda was the first to mass produce a variable valve system in cars in the mid 80's. The B16 that was used in Group A as a homoligation motor and that technology is now 23 years old.

Most of you only look at straight line and highway street racing

for a cars overall. Instead, look at how Honda builds a type R vehicle from the get go. Balance is above all else. In those days, Honda's package was the best in the world. For years it was the 4AG in the Corolla vs the B16 in the Civic. The key in a Vtec system is how aggressive the set up is. You can get much more aggressive cams and build a a setup that makes power all the way to 10,000 rpm. It is potential and most of the quys on the street cant get it so they talk sh!t.

That was then. This is now.

Honda used to care about the enthusiast and make some really fun cars.
CRX
Civic with a REAL suspension
Del Sol
Prelude
Intergra
ITR (maybe the best FWD sporty car ever)
S2000 (will not be replaced)
NSX (discontinued)

Like Toyota, they now sell giant sedans and SUVs galore. It seems to me that people TODAY buy them based on PAST accomplishments.

Vtec doesn't suck, the OP should read about it. What does suck are the people that think its a turbo or act like it adds 500hp or something.

I do believe the first Honda to have Vtec was the NSX right? Today just about every car brand has some sort of variable valve timing.

**EJ25RUN** · 08-21-2008, 01:02 AM

Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX

That was then. This is now.

Honda used to care about the enthusiast and make some really fun cars.
CRX (cant argue)
Civic with a REAL suspension (lol, had one of those, yes, double wishbone but the current FD2 in Japan is the best chassis for a front wheel drive car ever.)
Del Sol (never a fan)
Prelude (never a fan)
Intergra (Yes, Yes, Yes, in all its generations)
ITR (maybe the best FWD sporty car ever) no the New FD2 CTR is.
S2000 (will not be replaced) (great car)
NSX (discontinued) (well, they sold like 11 in 2003 world wide so that was coming. Plus every sports car got better and much more powerful in the late 90's. Also the gentleman's agreement was dropped.)

Yes, but there are exceptions. I feel we are better today than we were 3 years ago. The new Civic Si is a good car and the CTR is an incredible car.

And with the S2000 going away, i really hope this new front engined NSX is all it is cracked up to be.

**jmar32** · 08-21-2008, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX

Vtec doesn't suck, the OP should read about it. What does suck are the people that think its a turbo or act like it adds 500hp or something.

i agree. does anyone remember when the nsx was a concept and was goes to come out as a 500hp twin turbo.

Originally Posted by EJ25RUN

You wave the Nissan flag so confidently but you prolly dont even know that Nissan has VTEC too.

To the rest of you Vtec haters.

Honda was the first to mass produce a variable valve system in cars in the mid 80's. The B16 that was used in Group A as a homoligation motor and that technology is now 23 years old.

Most of you only look at straight line and highway street racing

for a cars overall. Instead, look at how Honda builds a type R vehicle from the get go. Balance is above all else. In those days, Honda's package was the best in the world. For years it was the 4AG in the Corolla vs the B16 in the Civic. The key in a Vtec system is how aggressive the set up is. You can get much more aggressive cams and build a a setup that makes power all the way to 10,000 rpm. It is potential and most of the quys on the street cant get it so they talk sh!t.

nice.

Originally Posted by EJ25RUN

Balance is above all else.

yeah and if anyone has done the main or rod bears then u know. cause you have a size then a color for each rod.

**RL...** · 08-21-2008, 12:39 AM

Originally Posted by EJ25RUN

You wave the Nissan flag so confidently but you prolly dont even know that Nissan has VTEC too.

Nissan=VVT=variable valve timing
Honda-vtec=variable valve timing and electronic control(i think?)
mitsubishi=mivec=mitsubishi innovative valve timing electronic control system

**EJ25RUN** · 08-21-2008, 01:04 AM

Originally Posted by NissanTun3r

Nissan=VVT=variable valve timing
Honda-vtec=variable valve timing and electronic control(i think?)
mitsubishi=mivec=mitsubishi innovative valve timing electronic control system

since you know it all.

so what is REV?

**Paree4g63** · 08-19-2008, 09:26 PM

in my opinion..vtec & supra's hav one of the best sounding motors in the world i've ever heard.

**Motivation** · 08-19-2008, 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by Paree4g63

in my opinion..vtec & supra's hav one of the best sounding motors in the world i've ever heard.

noo... they are engines. not motors.

lol

**EJ25RUN** · 08-19-2008, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by Motivation

noo... they are engines. not motors.

lol

so why is Detroit Motor city?

**Paree4g63** · 08-20-2008, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by Motivation

noo... they are engines. not motors.

lol

in conversation..we say motor instead of engine..it sounds easier..
Hey, what you got under that hood?
...I gotta d15 motor but my daily driver has a nsx motor in a rex chassis

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