Help Selecting car

[RWD164]

Outright Handling...
My budget will depend on the car I decide on. I will save accordingly. Looking to pick up the car early in 2009.

Ok, I am not going to bash you, but...

The EVO 8 and 9 are both AWD and as a result, they naturally oversteer unless they have had a lot of work. The Civic should not be mentioned with the EVo's or the RX7 because if built, FWD will torque steer (not great for handling). Personally, I have no problem with the RX-7 other than it is down on torque a bit, but all things considered, a very good motor.

As for your comment on Porsche, pretty much every carb porsche (Pre-'76) will drive circles around any of the cars you are considering in the handling department. As for the Japanses cars turn better statement, do remeber that the early japanese suspension designs were actually british. Colin Chapman of Lotus, to be precise.

If you are looking at handling, look at older cars. The lighter the better. Maybe a Datsun 510 (hey, it is japanese), or a 240Z. European cars could be a BMW 320i or an Audi. If you actually have near 50k, look at a used 911. You will not do better in the handling department.

MA

[SiRed94]

The EVO 8 and 9 are both AWD and as a result, they naturally oversteer unless they have had a lot of work.

Genius!

[LordZed]

Ok, I am not going to bash you, but...

The EVO 8 and 9 are both AWD and as a result, they naturally oversteer unless they have had a lot of work.

Not to start another topic, but how do you figure? Do you mean under steer? Most AWD guy's myself included battle under steer on our cars more so than over steer. AWD cars are more neutral in there handling and even dive a bit like a FWD car until pushed to there limit. The exception being the STi and new Evo X which you can control the amount of torque sent to the rear wheels, thus allowing the cars rear to rotate. The stock WRX's and Evo's will under steer all day long unless you chuck it into a turn hard enough to get a four wheel drift, at which point you can get the nose to tuck in with some trail breaking. Just from my experience. I'm sure other AWD cars have different handling dynamics, but generally under steer is the unwanted gremlin.

[RWD164]

Not to start another topic, but how do you figure? Do you mean under steer? Most AWD guy's myself included battle under steer on our cars more so than over steer. AWD cars are more neutral in there handling and even dive a bit like a FWD car until pushed to there limit. The exception being the STi and new Evo X which you can control the amount of torque sent to the rear wheels, thus allowing the cars rear to rotate. The stock WRX's and Evo's will under steer all day long unless you chuck it into a turn hard enough to get a four wheel drift, at which point you can get the nose to tuck in with some trail breaking. Just from my experience. I'm sure other AWD cars have different handling dynamics, but generally under steer is the unwanted gremlin.

Nice catch. I did intend to type understeer, but I was thinking too many sentences ahead. My fault,

MA