You can't argue at the numbers (dyno AND ET) from their old CRX. And if you remember, the year that Civic hit 10s there was only 3 others in the nation that did it (w/ proof) that year. If he has fell off I can't vouch - but if you've been around long enuff they were leading the way back in the day. One of the 1st shops that ignored the H series back when all the pro guys were running H series.