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im going to test drive one tomorrow! but yeah, its exact same 0-60 as the e46, more hp, more torque but heavier.. i don't like the fact that they put a v8 in it, the inline 6 was so much better imo.. Looks are nice, i like the way the new 3 series look.. but yeah, overpriced, rather get a porsche for that..
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Originally Posted by EJ25RUN
its great...but..im not a fan of the motor in the m3 either.
the RS4 v8 can go to 8400.. But its power is peaked @ 7800
I'll take an ISF
I love the Looks but it's lacking in it's class performance wise!
It still has it's overall appeal but 90k is to0 mucho.
LOL at you thinking you know me. But nice try sport. I'm looking at getting a new 745-750 BMW as my next car. So...how do I hate BMW's? This is an opinion based thread jackass. You dont like it, Get the fcuk out bìtch. Hence the different options of the poll, if you do or dont like it. Your really starting to piss me off and dont need to be on this site.Quote:
Originally Posted by gforce23
-Ant.
My father has owned 2, we still have one.Quote:
Originally Posted by HatchMan
and WHAT THE FCUK is a "BIMMER"??? Didnt BMW owners forget how to spell and pronounce a word?? The way they pronounce it it should be spelled BEAMER!!!!!
-Ant.
Viper wannabe? How so? Yes my father owns one and not I. At the time I could not afford the Viper. my mustang is going up for sale tonight and I've narrowed my search of cars down to about 7 and the Gen II viper is in my horizon. So again, LOL @ you thinking you know me. enjoy :goodjob:Quote:
Originally Posted by gforce23
-Ant.
There's a very common misconception and mispronunciation that has been around for years. A "beamer" is a BMW motorcycle. A "bimmer" is a BMW car.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnthonyF
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Originally Posted by Wikipedia
Wow wow wow.. looks who's getting all sandy.. You posted your (worthless) opinion, I posted mine. If you don't like my opinion, you're free to **** yourself. 745... oooh, wow. Where did you read the model # eh, Wikipedia? There's no need to try and act nouveau riche.. if you're getting one, fair enough. Who gives a ****?Quote:
Originally Posted by AnthonyF
I never said I "knew" you.. so your opinion and all further statements are based on well, nothing basically. rotfl @ trying to counter every statement... reading comments like yours livens up a tiring day at the office.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnthonyF
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Hahahahahaa.. wow, you really are a wannabe vagina.. neg reps? You're worse off than an autistic child.. rotfl. I'm not gonna stoop down to your level anyway.. so you're free to neg rep me further for whatever I said. lol again..
verdy nice. +12 to yoy for taking the time and finding that. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by StraightSix
Sandy? Not at all. Your opinions are garbage and you arent worth sh*t to this site. Was I trying to impress you by saying it was a 745? No. What did you want me to type? the "BMW that has a V8 and LED tailights?" Dumbass. I was stating that I do not dislike BMW's.Quote:
Originally Posted by gforce23
How about I kick you off the site instead and call it even? HAHA. You getting all bent out of shape acting like you know me and what I have and have not. If this entertains you, you need another minimum wage job.Quote:
Originally Posted by gforce23
-Ant.
Oooh .. says the guy with 13K posts of worthless steaming garbage and random musings.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnthonyF
LOL .. again, your post confirms you cannot play a war of words. Is using your "mod power" the only way out for you? Poor ol' thing..Quote:
How about I kick you off the site instead and call it even? HAHA. You getting all bent out of shape acting like you know me and what I have and have not. If this entertains you, you need another minimum wage job.
I'm done posting in this thread anyway.. don't like to increase my post count with worthless fights over the internet with some kiddo.
I've been on this site for 5-6 years. Do the math.Quote:
Originally Posted by gforce23
I dunno why you call this war. But if you want to give up b/c you dont like my opinions thats your choice. Dunno why you go into threads that are opnion based and cry about my likes/dislikes.Quote:
Originally Posted by gforce23
-Ant.
Look at this way - we are never going to agree on some issues out here. So rather than cluttering this thread with **** you **** me type of posts, let's take this to the WL and stay on topic in here. Feel free to delete all our so called 'worthless' posts if any of 'em go against IA's guidelines.
Woohoo!!!! INTERNET FIGHT!!!!
BTW: New M3 > anything in its class. If you think otherwise than you have no idea what class this car is in. As for the Viper/355 comment, have fun driving those everyday! /sarcasm I'll stick with the M.
rare we see eye to eye but i agree, the new m3 just that much better than anything it is up against.Quote:
Originally Posted by fcman
First and foremost, you can buy it as a manual. That is a big part of any car for me.
#2 A good driver will be able to get an M3 around a race track faster than an IS-F, C63 tire roaster, and the understeer machine rs4.
+ the interior is a toss up, some like BMWs inside some dont, the simple fact the i drive computer can control the electronic diff on the inside is a big plus for me.
We just have different tastes my man. But facts are facts, the new M dominates.Quote:
Originally Posted by EJ25RUN
is-f ftw!!!
i give the M credit,but for what i would do,the C63amg would be way better for my driving though.....but i agree the M rewards u for knowing how to drive
thats exactly what this thread and others are like.Quote:
Originally Posted by fcman
-Ant.
Looks like Pure Sex to me :D I would buy one if i had the money...Iv always been a BMW fan...and if anything they just keep getting sexier!!!! Thats just me though :goodjob:
Lets see...
Statistics.
=58-65 grand. A friend of mine has one it was 61,000. Don't know where you got 90k but only a few sold close to that long before they came out. Then again GT500's are still selling for 70k so the M3's price dropped accordingly once they were offically "out." They had two at global for 61,000 loaded out the door a few weeks ago.
-Their 10-15k+ cheaper than the RS4, Cheaper than the C63 and the same price as the IS-F. The car is suitably priced for what its competition is.
-They trap 111-116 on 19" 30 series tires. Their words faster than the E46 M3 and the CSL. Seen here...http://video.google.com/videosearch?...n&sitesearch=#
- It accomplished its goal of keeping pace with a 997S as its just as fast straight line and on the ring. It also keeps pace with cars like 996 Turbo's and 360 Modenas of a few years ago in terms of lap times/straight line speed.
-It has the most advanced V8 out. Its engine of the year and ousts the RS4 by .2 liters, 50 rpm while making the same power. The powerplant is beyond this world amazing.
- The E36 M3 was rated a better handeling car then the F335 coupe dollar for dollar. This car is leagues ahead of an F355 and laughable on how much less it is to maintain considering its free for the first 50k miles.
As even a retarded car enthusiast could acknowledge the car does everything very well. Better than what it was designed to beat. With that in mind you couldn't argue that it wasn't an amazing car thats suitably priced with amazing acknlowledgements and rewards to follow what it has. If you don't think on those lines then i'm afraid you simply don't know much about cars.
-I.M.O its beautiful. Aggressive but still very classy. It's like its competition that you can drive daily comfortably but it reeks of performance. It screams motorsports like it should.
-Whats dollars to some is pennies to others, if you think its overpriced then get a better job. All that it offers is OUT of your league. If an M3 were a Honda bargain it wouldn't be an M3. This car is Porsche/Ferrari/Masarati style performance for much less. Hence why there are SO many posers buying them..they can AFFORD THEM. Coming from a racing background i've volunteered at tons of Ferrari/Porsche track days and several do not welcome BMW's. Owners get very aggrevated when their very expensive Ferrari is being run down by a "cheap" M3 and i've even seen many pack up and go home because of it (this is mostly driver skill). I find this hilarious even though M3's are perceived as the cheap mans supercar by elitists.
-You could compare it to a faster C6 vette or smaller but = performance more expensive 100k Carrera S but thats purely subjective. They offer completely different thingshttp://farm3.static.flickr.com/2216/...ce919d52_o.jpg
I assure you man, it is not only you. It is more like "common sense" ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by YoTa_BoX
I'd really like to see what the new M3 can do on a road course in the hands of a capable driver. I think that would be the most telling thing about the car's perceived value. If it can run down a C6Z and still haul around three of the driver's pals, then it will be a formidable car.
We have an E46 M3 that Time Trials with NASA, and that car time wise is in the company of C6Zs, a '99 FRC Corvette, and a C5Z.
The only think I hate about the M3 is the C/F roof.
Look at an E92 in white with the c/f roof. Your opinion will definitely change.Quote:
Originally Posted by fcman
That's impossible. A "loaded" M3 runs close to 70K+. Unless Global are quitting the business of selling cars, I don't see how anything more than a spartan M3 could go for 58K+taxes.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnURleft
GT500KRs are selling at twice their MSRP though. MSRP - 70K, ebay auction prices - 120K+.
Dunno where you're getting your stats from. Gwinnett Audi has 3 MY08 RS4s priced in the mid60s. A similarly equipped M3 is a wee bit cheaper, but definitely not $10-15K cheaper.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnURleft
The international engine of the year award was won by the N54 TT.. the powerplant is amazing though.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnURleft
http://www.motorauthority.com/cars/b...he-year-award/
I'll have to agree with the rest of your statements.
It's actually not at all. They had twin M3's in there at MSRP (considering its technically against the law for a deal to mark up a car) for $61,500. These were also the first two I had seen. They also had a some options..no carbon roof, head up display, stereo. If you think its possible then I suggest you go to your local dealer and check up its $56,500 base price..or about what we paid for our S5. A steal if you ask me and at that price it still is the poor mans supercar when it comes to elitiest track day clubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by gforce23
RS4's base price is that of a completely loaded M3. I know this because my mother almost bought one, I help out at Jim Ellis and we have 3 Audi's in the direct family. I also spent a few days in an RS4 we brought home. They start around 67k but no car is without an expensive premium package. Typical RS4's leave the dealer around 71-73k or about 14k more than my E92 M3 with head up display option only.Quote:
Dunno where you're getting your stats from. Gwinnett Audi has 3 MY08 RS4s priced in the mid60s. A similarly equipped M3 is a wee bit cheaper, but definitely not $10-15K cheaper.
Yep I know. Wait a see what wins it this year.. I already know where my money is going for the 3rd year in a row.Quote:
The international engine of the year award was won by the N54 TT.. the powerplant is amazing though.
http://www.motorauthority.com/cars/b...he-year-award/
I'll have to agree with the rest of your statements.
I'm glad you do I can happily say you know your cars then.
i really like it, i'd love to hear a V8 rev up to 8k.
The V8 in the e92 m3 is lighter then the I6 in the e46 m3, and on top gear it went around a track faster then the new C63 AMG and the outdated RS4
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Originally Posted by Kevykev
Lacking in it's class performance wise? Are we talking about the same car here? I'm about as far from being a fanboy of BMW as a Euro-car guy can get, but it's comments like this that make me wonder if there isn't just some animosity involved. It's certainly not anywhere near the bottom of it's very small class in performance.
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Originally Posted by AnthonyF
I'd just stick with a used e46 with some fat rims or a 335i with good looks. :goodjob:
Ya gotta have luxury after all this test & tune:cheers:
I love it, looks and all. The looks are purely preference, a lot of people are going to thing it's fugly. I like it a lot, imo it does a good job of looking pretty angry while maintaining clean body lines. Plus the new v8 is genious as far as the engineering does, maybe American car makers will pick up on this and realize you don't need 6 liters to make good power.