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    Default b18b all motor

    i have been searching around and still havent gotten any clear results but here is my question:

    i have an Ls that is going in my sol and i want to stay all motor but i dont want to put new pistons in so what can i do to get some good numbers out of it?

    i was thinking about doing:

    2 layer head gasket
    edelbrock intake mani
    injen cai
    larger TB
    2.5 exhaust
    decent port polish
    crower cams
    crower valve train
    and a decent header

    will this make some decent numbers

    ps i am new to b series soo go easy on me
    d15b7 fs 300obo has to go soon

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    All that will cost over $1K easily and you still won't make over 170 WHP.

    You could start off the an aftermarket intake manifold, Ebay intake, 2.5" exhaust, and a header and get a few WHP .. and that's about it. Larger TB is a waste of money for you right now.

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    thanks for the input man i may go with a small turbo setup but i really just want about 170-175 so that sounds good
    d15b7 fs 300obo has to go soon

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    buy a header from me , the Tri-y ($280)

    Buy a Skunk2 Intake manifold

    Buy Crower 403s (stock valvetrain is ok)

    Buy an ECU from me an tune.

    should make 150whp, thats about the best you can expect from a stock bottom LS engine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. KiDD
    buy a header from me , the Tri-y ($280)

    Buy a Skunk2 Intake manifold

    Buy Crower 403s (stock valvetrain is ok)

    Buy an ECU from me an tune.

    should make 150whp, thats about the best you can expect from a stock bottom LS engine
    listen to kidd he knows his S l-l it the tri-y is awesome too

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    i had 155whp in my b18a1 with a 7lb flywheel full skunk 2 exhaust and a ebay intake.

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    post the dyno. That would be the STRONGEST B18B in history
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. KiDD
    post the dyno. That would be the STRONGEST B18B in history
    x2. i would just go with a small turbo setup
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    well for a complete all motor non vtec b series here you go

    http://www.jspecautosports.com/files...chcenter3m.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightrice
    i had 155whp in my b18a1 with a 7lb flywheel full skunk 2 exhaust and a ebay intake.
    HAHA i agree that number aint worth crap unless you got a paper provin it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. KiDD
    Buy Crower 403s (stock valvetrain is ok)
    why do ppl say stock valvetrain you cant use on those cams?They say get dual valve springs.
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    1. It gets really old when people keep calling southside a thief, b/c honestly, they have no phucking idea! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. KiDD
    buy a header from me , the Tri-y ($280)

    Buy a Skunk2 Intake manifold

    Buy Crower 403s (stock valvetrain is ok)

    Buy an ECU from me an tune.

    should make 150whp, thats about the best you can expect from a stock bottom LS engine
    hes the man.

    no need for the edelbrock manifold and the injen cai...id just do a cheap intake with blox velocity stack and filter.

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    you can use stock valvetrain on crower 403 cams. you cant use stock valvetrain on crower 404 cams
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    why do ppl say stock valvetrain you cant use on those cams?They say get dual valve springs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jadakid88
    you can use stock valvetrain on crower 403 cams. you cant use stock valvetrain on crower 404 cams
    and u dont have to worry about valve float with them
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    1. It gets really old when people keep calling southside a thief, b/c honestly, they have no phucking idea! lol

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    How many miles does the motor have on it also.Just throwing stuff together on a old worn out motor wont help either.I say stock rebuild then add jubaloop
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    1. It gets really old when people keep calling southside a thief, b/c honestly, they have no phucking idea! lol

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    the motor was new with low miles. When i first dynoed it with just a intake and header it had 132whp. Ill dig the sheet up from that. Was at mainstream i talked to dave and rob up their and with the setup im running i should be around 155whp. Dave said hes never seen a stock b18 put down numbers like this. you also have to consider weather and everything when its dynoing.

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    so SHOULD you make 155whp or DID you make 155whp with just an intake an exhaust?

    if you did make it, then holy **** thats a record.
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    if you want to go all motor vtak is the way to go
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    hey i think mr.kidd knows wat he is talking about when it comes to cams.....
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    I hate to tell ya but to get the most outta those 403s you need higher compression. I am a LS guy but my opinion is to put a small turbo on it or do the LS/VTEC. Strictly my opinion, do what you want. People hated on my JRSC LS.
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    My LS with msd cap and coil, intake, header, cat back made 135.2 whp and 119.7 ftlbs

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    the key to N/A LS is compression i had a LS integra GSR tranny with PR3 piston p&p head crower cams, springs, stock manifold ported with a 68mm TB it went best of 14.7@95 i figure that should be around 160hp with no tune and in integra with A/C

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    Quote Originally Posted by PUNISHER
    the key to N/A LS is compression i had a LS integra GSR tranny with PR3 piston p&p head crower cams, springs, stock manifold ported with a 68mm TB it went best of 14.7@95 i figure that should be around 160hp with no tune and in integra with A/C
    Thats good I guess since it was in a teg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by southside
    Thats good I guess since it was in a teg.
    yea i would think so i think with tune on it maybe some low 14's on street tire or maybe high 13's on a slick........ you should have picked that stuff up of mine i hope the new ower will make something out of it in his hatch

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    or drag radials
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    well i just want like 150 at the wheels for now so any ideas to get close
    d15b7 fs 300obo has to go soon

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    buy a b20 iahd 1 that made 139WHp and 129tr in a hatch and ran 14.2 on street tires.

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    ok this thread was about a b18 please be helpful
    d15b7 fs 300obo has to go soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by 93delsol15
    ok this thread was about a b18 please be helpful
    just my 2 cents , good luck on getting those numbers.

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    my car blew before i got another chance to dyno it. But i had no a/c no power steering. I just had hte manditor tings to make the car work. might not add much idk. Also depeds on type of dyno

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    Small Turbo x2, 170whp is very easily obtainable W/a small turbo. My bone stock LS made a 127whp W/all acc. To be honest I can't see a LS being too successful N/A, Never the less Good Luck.


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    Search honda-tech all motor section. I'm pretty sure you can get the info you want from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twinj
    Small Turbo x2, 170whp is very easily obtainable W/a small turbo. My bone stock LS made a 127whp W/all acc. To be honest I can't see a LS being too successful N/A, Never the less Good Luck.
    LS motors can be very successful N/A if you have the money and the right set up actually
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    thanks for the responses guys
    d15b7 fs 300obo has to go soon

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    N/A power is totally different from boost power but IMO its not hard to get good numbers out of a LS motor but will take time and some R&D

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