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    Default Figured you girls would like this LS9 638 HP 604 TQ



    PONTIAC, Mich. – When it was introduced at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit earlier this year, the 2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1's power was estimated at 100 horsepower for each of its 6.2 liters of displacement. GM Powertrain has completed SAE certification of the ZR1's supercharged LS9 V-8 and the results exceed the estimate: 638 horsepower (476 kW) and 604 lb.-ft. of torque (819 Nm).

    The LS9's output is nearly 103 horses per liter, or just about 1.7 horses for each of the engine's 376 cubic inches. It is unquestionably the most powerful automotive production engine ever manufactured by General Motors and enables the Corvette ZR1 to achieve a top speed of more than 200 mph (322 km/h).

    "One of the most amazing things about the Corvette ZR1 is the level of refinement that our designers and engineers have attained. Even with all that power, this car has road manners that will allow our customers to enjoy it on the streets as a daily driver, and on the track," said Chevrolet General Manager Ed Peper.

    The Corvette ZR1 goes on sale this summer. Its 638-hp supercharged engine is complemented in the chassis by heavy-duty components not offered in any other model, including a six-speed manual transmission with race-hardened gears and dual-disc clutch technology that delivers exceptional clamping power and lower inertia, as well as strengthened axle components.

    Fuel economy testing has not been completed, but engineers are confident the ZR1 will be the most fuel-efficient 600-plus-horsepower car on the market.

    The LS9 engine is hand-built by specially trained technicians at GM's Performance Build Center in Wixom, Mich.
    It is a unique, small-volume engine production facility that also builds the Chevrolet Corvette Z06's LS7 engine and other high-performance GM production engines.

    "Developing the LS9 involved more than simply striving for a great horsepower number. Endurance and reliability testing have shown the engine to be robust and low-maintenance, just like other engines in the small-block family," said Sam Winegarden, executive director, engine engineering for GM Powertrain. "That it is distinguished as the most powerful engine ever from General Motors is a source of immense pride among everyone involved with the LS9."

    Supercharged aspiration

    The key enabler of the LS9's performance is the industry's first production application of a new, positive-displacement Roots-type supercharger that has a unique four-lobe rotor design. Its design promotes quieter and more efficient performance, while the large, 2.3-liter displacement ensures adequate air volume at high rpm. Maximum boost pressure is 10.5 psi (0.72 bar). It is teamed with an integrated charge cooling system that reduces inlet air temperature for maximum performance.

    "The combination of large displacement and the new, four-rotor design broadens the effective range of the supercharger, allowing the engine to make more power at lower rpm and sustain it throughout the power band," said Winegarden. "The low-end torque is tremendous and the high-rpm charge from the supercharger is simply amazing."

    A raised hood provides adequate clearance for the LS9, while a polycarbonate window in the hood provides a view of the engine beneath it.

    LS9 details

    The LS9 features many unique design and manufacturing details that support its high-performance nature. They include:

    Aluminum cylinder block with iron cylinder liners that are finish-bored and honed with a deck plate installed
    Forged steel crankshaft with a nine-bolt flange
    Titanium connecting rods and forged aluminum pistons
    Stronger, rotocast cylinder heads with 2.16-inch (55 mm) titanium intake valves and 1.59-inch (40.4 mm) hollow-stem, sodium-filled exhaust valves
    Camshaft with 0.555-inch (14.1 mm) lift for excellent idle and low-speed driving qualities
    A dry-sump oiling system with 10.5-quart (9.9 liters) capacity
    Integrated oil cooler and piston-cooling oil squirters

    Specifications

    LS9 6.2L SUPERCHARGED V-8

    Displacement (cu in / cc): 376 / 6162
    Bore & stroke (in / mm): 4.06 x 3.62 / 103.25 x 92
    Block material: cast aluminum
    Cylinder head material: A356-T6 rotocast aluminum
    Valvetrain: overhead valve, 2 valves per cylinder
    Fuel delivery: SFI (sequential fuel injection)
    Compression ratio: 9.1:1
    Horsepower / kW: 638 / 476 @ 6500 rpm
    Torque (lb-ft / Nm): 604 / 819 @ 3800 rpm
    Fuel shut-off (rpm): 6600
    Recommended fuel: premium required
    Exhaust manifolds: stainless steel
    Main bearing caps: forged steel
    Crankshaft: forged steel
    Camshaft:n hollow steel; 0.555-in (14.1 mm) lift
    Connecting rods: forged titanium
    Valves:
    intake: titanium
    exhaust: hollow steel
    Valve lifters: hydraulic roller
    Supercharger: R2300, four-lobe "Roots" type (2.3L)
    Additional features: piston oil-spray cooling; direct-mount ignition coils; 11-rib accessory drive

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    wow, i wonder how much will the full block cost?

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    I want one in my Miata

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    That will be a great crate motor. I would love to put it in a old school body. like a early Nova or Impala drop top.
    N/A>>><<<BOOST

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    2 values per cyclinder and a single cam, oh GM, you 1970s motors alway make me laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneDurtyZ
    2 values per cyclinder and a single cam, oh GM, you 1970s motors alway make me laugh
    Stop hatin on the massive torque the ls9 makes. I dont see your engine doing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by transamkid
    Stop hatin on the massive torque the ls9 makes. I dont see your engine doing that.
    oh im sure it makes a lot of torque, it'd be unbeatable at pulling my boat, or hauling my grandparents travel trailer, my engine isnt designed for that. I'm sure its one of the best american produced engines, but you cant argue that its very primative compared to other engines. Imagine the power it would have with a more efficent 4 valve per cyclinder arangment, or DOHCs, you know modern equpiment

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    But when you think about it the ls based engines are the most advanced. And not primitive as you said. Ford has dual overhaed cams and there little 4.6s suck. The engines are to fragile. And then the effiency of the ls engines is amazing. My friends ls engine gets 30mpg on the highway and that is stock 300 hp. And not only that but slap a cam into it and the hp increase is amazing. I think it would be great at pulling $hit and more. Even though it can be used to pull stuff that is not what all that torque is for. Its so it can get off the line in a hurry.
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    Damn thats beautiful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneDurtyZ
    2 values per cyclinder and a single cam, oh GM, you 1970s motors alway make me laugh
    Are you mad that the only way for your car to make LS series type power is an extremely expensive turbo kit?

    Are you mad that the LS series motors can make all this power very very reliably?

    Are you mad that they can get 30 MPG while still being able to blow your doors off in a race?

    Yup. Low tech.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneDurtyZ
    2 values per cyclinder and a single cam, oh GM, you 1970s motors alway make me laugh
    You have something against pushrod engines or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneDurtyZ
    oh im sure it makes a lot of torque, it'd be unbeatable at pulling my boat, or hauling my grandparents travel trailer, my engine isnt designed for that. I'm sure its one of the best american produced engines, but you cant argue that its very primative compared to other engines. Imagine the power it would have with a more efficent 4 valve per cyclinder arangment, or DOHCs, you know modern equpiment
    Modern, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tj1986c
    You have something against pushrod engines or something?

    TJ
    I have a problem with out of date tech being jamed into frontline machines. The Vette would be a great car if it was made right. Chevy has gotten better in the last few years at making it a sports car, while kicking and screaming about dragging it away from a muscle car. Honestly, they could own ferrari if they would just spend a little money and update their ideas

    Pushrods were great engines in the 60s and 70s, and they do generate massive pull, but their time has come and gone, only the big three seems to hold on to them, i think dodge's only example is in the viper (i could be wrong)

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    Quote Originally Posted by nreggie454
    Are you mad that the only way for your car to make LS series type power is an extremely expensive turbo kit?

    Are you mad that the LS series motors can make all this power very very reliably?

    Are you mad that they can get 30 MPG while still being able to blow your doors off in a race?

    Yup. Low tech.
    not really, i bought my car for the mix of good power and awesome handling, if wanted a drag machine, i'd have got a fox body. I'd hardly call a chevy 'relable', but i assume your talking about n/a power over boost, in which case, yeah i agree with your there. But you can only produce so much N/A power with pure displacement.

    Drag race maybe, but i dont see a vette 'blowing my doors off' in any track meet, like i said, if i wanted a drag car, it'd have been a fox body or TT Supra or some other stupid fast car. I wanted handling>power, but still wanted good power

    I'm not craping on v8s, ferrari makes awesome v8's, but i dont see why they dont spend a little money and update thier old fasioned engines. I mean the all fiberglass body is great, but why can't they look at Lotus and get some ideas, hell thats what Carrol Shelbey did
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    Why do they need to update? What's wrong with thier pushrod engines?

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    can anyone say TT conversion!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneDurtyZ
    not really, i bought my car for the mix of good power and awesome handling, if wanted a drag machine, i'd have got a fox body. I'd hardly call a chevy 'relable', but i assume your talking about n/a power over boost, in which case, yeah i agree with your there. But you can only produce so much N/A power with pure displacement.

    Drag race maybe, but i dont see a vette 'blowing my doors off' in any track meet, like i said, if i wanted a drag car, it'd have been a fox body or TT Supra or some other stupid fast car. I wanted handling>power, but still wanted good power

    I'm not craping on v8s, ferrari makes awesome v8's, but i dont see why they dont spend a little money and update thier old fasioned engines. I mean the all fiberglass body is great, but why can't they look at Lotus and get some ideas, hell thats what Carrol Shelbey did
    I hate to burst your bubble, but you can take a full road race 350z throw in twins vs a ZR1 Vette.... the vette is still going to out perform the 350z coming off the show room floor... pick up a motor trend you'll never see a 350z compared to even a base model corvette
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneDurtyZ
    not really, i bought my car for the mix of good power and awesome handling, if wanted a drag machine, i'd have got a fox body. I'd hardly call a chevy 'relable', but i assume your talking about n/a power over boost, in which case, yeah i agree with your there. But you can only produce so much N/A power with pure displacement.

    Drag race maybe, but i dont see a vette 'blowing my doors off' in any track meet, like i said, if i wanted a drag car, it'd have been a fox body or TT Supra or some other stupid fast car. I wanted handling>power, but still wanted good power

    I'm not craping on v8s, ferrari makes awesome v8's, but i dont see why they dont spend a little money and update thier old fasioned engines. I mean the all fiberglass body is great, but why can't they look at Lotus and get some ideas, hell thats what Carrol Shelbey did
    Please just give up now. The vette will beat your car in any venue be it a track, drag race, what ever. You got a Z because it is way cheaper than a vette and no one can blame you for that. I hate chevy but to be honest the ls series motor is f'ing awesome and thats why "high tech" mazda and nissan guys pull the dual cam, variable timing, wankle or whatever to put these motors in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capt._Ron
    Please just give up now. The vette will beat your car in any venue be it a track, drag race, what ever. You got a Z because it is way cheaper than a vette and no one can blame you for that. I hate chevy but to be honest the ls series motor is f'ing awesome and thats why "high tech" mazda and nissan guys pull the dual cam, variable timing, wankle or whatever to put these motors in.
    i bought my Z cause i liked it, and it was prefect for what i wanted it for. I'm not here for a pissing contest oh whos car can do what. I just stated the lack or progress in chevy engineering department

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    Quote Originally Posted by FAHHQUE700
    I hate to burst your bubble, but you can take a full road race 350z throw in twins vs a ZL1 Vette.... the vette is still going to out perform the 350z coming off the show room floor... pick up a motor trend you'll never see a 350z compared to even a base model corvette
    that would depend on the driver now wouldnt it? I've seen plenty of TT Zs getting 400-670 hp, but you could always get more out the vette to.

    Big give me a ferrari v8 and a chevy v8, and with the same amount of money, i'll get better performance out of the ferrari motor due to its engineering, thats my point

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    I actually agree with DurtyZ, it's time for chevy to move forward and put the pushrods on the shelves. a 4 valve engine would allow for so much more airflow as well as allowing for more efficient valvetrain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FAHHQUE700
    I hate to burst your bubble, but you can take a full road race 350z throw in twins vs a ZL1 Vette.... the vette is still going to out perform the 350z coming off the show room floor... pick up a motor trend you'll never see a 350z compared to even a base model corvette
    Dude look at the price difference though. For over DOUBLE the cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by green91
    Dude look at the price difference though. For over DOUBLE the cost.
    I said.... FULL ALL OUT ROAD RACE 350z and throw twins on it... apparently you haven't priced out real racing parts. Just a set of racing brake pads will run you $300. It's not about price... I'm saying give the 350z everything, and leave the vette stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by green91
    I actually agree with DurtyZ, it's time for chevy to move forward and put the pushrods on the shelves. a 4 valve engine would allow for so much more airflow as well as allowing for more efficient valvetrain.
    thanks, but dont bother with facts, else the fanbois will pummel you

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    Quote Originally Posted by FAHHQUE700
    I said.... FULL ALL OUT ROAD RACE 350z and throw twins on it... apparently you haven't priced out real racing parts. Just a set of racing brake pads will run you $300. It's not about price... I'm saying give the 350z everything, and leave the vette stock.
    You really think that a BONE STOCK showroom vette is going to keep up with a race prepped 350z? Listen dude im not even a 350z fan, dont even like them, but thats an insane statement your making. Corvettes are nice and all but they aren't a showroom race car. You're giving them just a little to much credit.

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    i wanna drop one in an fd!!!!
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    I know that for a fact. Apparently, you have no clue what a ZR1 Corvette is... Dude

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    Quote Originally Posted by NevrNufTorq
    i wanna drop one in an fd!!!!
    just throw your motor in there, and put one of these in the vette

    BTW - did you get the pic of my wheels?

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    Im fully aware of what the ZR1 is, ive had one as my BG for months now. But to say that a 350z CANNOT be made to perform on par or better than a stock zr1 corvette is crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FAHHQUE700
    just throw your motor in there, and put one of these in the vette

    BTW - did you get the pic of my wheels?
    i was windering if those were form you?!?!? my ohine doesnt tell me where the pic came from just shows the pic. they're bad to the bone!
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    it needs a painted valve cover, then its acceptable. lol



    anyway, i think the only bad thing about the ZR-1 currently is that people wont want to shell out the cash for the premium gas with the way gas prices are.


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    If youve got 100k$ for a car, $4/gal isnt going to hurt ya lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDM ONLY
    it needs a painted valve cover, then its acceptable. lol



    anyway, i think the only bad thing about the ZR-1 currently is that people wont want to shell out the cash for the premium gas with the way gas prices are.
    you cant run anything but premium in the new z's anyway. or any other high hp car for that matter.

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    LOL @ 350Z owners talking about performance.

    Why fix something that isn't broken?

    LSx motors > Your pathetic VQs. Emphasis on pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iloveboost
    LOL @ 350Z owners talking about performance.

    Why fix something that isn't broken?

    LSx and LT motors > Your pathetic VQs. Emphasis on pathetic.
    fixed

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    Quote Originally Posted by HypnoToad
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    LT? I wouldn't have gone that far....

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    I cant get over that he said the engine is so primitive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FAHHQUE700
    LT? I wouldn't have gone that far....
    well the old iron block LT1 does make 300hp, which i more than a VQ35 isnt?

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    No you wouldn't cause you couldn't afford parts for the Ferrari.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneDurtyZ
    that would depend on the driver now wouldnt it? I've seen plenty of TT Zs getting 400-670 hp, but you could always get more out the vette to.

    Big give me a ferrari v8 and a chevy v8, and with the same amount of money, i'll get better performance out of the ferrari motor due to its engineering, thats my point
    No offense but I don't think that anyone on this forum would know where to start when ****ing with Ferrari internals or their ECU after the mods.

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