Just thought I would get some thoughts, opinions, things to know about before buying one etc. I drove a 225 convertible last year and absolutely loved it.
MK1 Audi TT
Just thought I would get some thoughts, opinions, things to know about before buying one etc. I drove a 225 convertible last year and absolutely loved it.
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10Originally Posted by AlanŽ
They're pretty bad and we have a 2.7T Allroad and S5 in the direct family. The only thing they are really good for is crusing around town and the interior. Even with chip/downpipes/race gas they are fairly slow and the chassy is weak. The new TT is something different. Those are awesome.
Great fun car... Expensive when it breaks.
The 225 is the best out of all 3 ( v6, 180 )
Get the hardtop..
Get a GIAC chip... extra 40 hp /70 + torque.
Here is my old one :
Mods : Giac Chip, Custom exhaust, K&N drop in Filter, Forge Inverter Valve..
peaking at 25lbs.
best ET 13.8
I remember yours julio. 13.8 was the best you got out of it with all that done to it? it felt like a mid 15 second car stock.
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10
If you launch the hell out of them they can do mid 14's...maybe better. They arn't fast. I'd say the 3.2 is by far the best one to have. Best motor, most likely canidate for big power, best tranmission in years and one of the best sounding motors with exhaust.
I was just doing one of those wishful thinking browses online and the few days I spent with one came back. I really liked the car overall. Was looking at the aftermarket and the ****s kinda expensive to mod.
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10
Only that ? Minor mods, minues the chip... chip was the best..
When I owned mines there wasnt a DP available for the 225.. a couple of companies taking a shot at building some....... but no #'s.
3.2 the best .. lol
Worst one.
I just asumed that would have put you about mid 13's. No disrespect or anything. I just made a general assumption and was wrong.
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10
I had less then 1K invested in my 225 and ran a 13.8.. Consistent 13.9 to 14.1's.. Never had any issues with it.
When they break they are suppose to be expensive.
I had mines for 2 years... Went to the track almost every friday night.. gave my car hell.. never no problems.
Did you buy yours brand new or used? Just curious. If I get one I don't want one withmore than like 70-75k miles on it
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10
The car was putting down 220+awhp/290+awtq.. and it was a boat ( heavy)
Maybe ti couldve hit a 13.5 with a better driver.. who knows.
Oh Ok that's what's up. Either way man I still like em. If I get something else it's gonna be boosted and since I spent a couple of days with one I was just thinking about it. It will probably be awhile before I do.
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10
The big #'s are actually attainable, the transmission is better and holds more power, the chassy is improved, they are faster, torquier, trap higher, they were more competitive in autocross stock class, they run consistantly faster lap times on any track around the south and the 3.2 was the only TT that was actually comparible to the competition. Its a better car. Hence why the motor went unchanged in the new body style and why it was the flagship TT until the new model. 1.8t's have no potential short of a single GT28 and 350whp maxxed out. They are awful performance cars if you want to go fast. They were awesome for Audi but not so great when you look around at alternatives. The new 2.0t is leaps and bounds better in every way to the lackluster 1.8. In such a way that it's almost worth getting and saving over the carry over 3.2 motor if you can deal with FF. I help out at an Audi repair/tuning shop so I've seen/driven/tracked almost everything Audi has spit out including the two back at home. The 3.2 is the best TT to daily drive, track and to make huge numbers out of. The only problem is its 2 clutches instead of 3 peddles but DSG is lots of fun compared to other systems.3.2 the best .. lol
Worst one.
Last edited by OnURleft; 03-29-2008 at 06:16 PM.
Oh lord. Riceboy don't get a TT, you'd just ruin it by being cheap and time attacking wheels, etc.
Since your parents have deep pockets maintenance shouldn't be a problem. But if it's out of your pocket, GL. I swear every time our a4 or a6 went in it was at least $800 and this happened a lot. Plenty of random things break and annoy you that you would never have issues with on other cars.
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Of course the 3.2 was faster then the 225 "STOCK" duh... I mean, that extra 25 amhp does help the 3.2...
But with 500 bucks you have 1.8t 225 beating the **** out of the 3.2..
I never said 1.8t's were the best **** out there.. I honestly careless now.
But, When I had my 225 TT I never had any issues... ran a 13.8 with less then $1000 invested in it.. I gave it hell... Never no issues niether.
Is fine and dandy you Help out at a shop.. I owned one.. Drove the piss out of it almost everyday.. and yes, NEVER HAD ANY ISSUES out of the 1.8t.
Maybe I was lucky ?
Yeah I haven't had problems out of my 1.8t but it seems everyone else I know has a ton of issues. I just warn everyone because I'd rather be aware of them and not have them, than have thousands of bills I didn't expect.
***Lotus Elise***
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LOL. Man I have never understood what your problem was with me but it's whatever.
This car is the only car I have ever gone cheap on simply because I hate it, it's slow, and has absolutely no potential whatsoever. For what it would cost me to get 250whp out of my car I could practically pay off a TT and more likely than not it would break within a year.
What kind of maintenance problems do they usually have from what I have seen it seems the timing belt and water pump are the main thing.
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10
13.8 is good and with mods they are quicker but short of an expensive GT28 upgrade or single K04 your done and only with 300ish whp and a motor thats being worked to hell. On the other hand HPF has some amazing kits for the 3.2 whick I'm sure you've seen...400-500-600awhp is easily attainable for the money on that motor. I'm glad you had good luck with yours, the 1.8's are much more reliable then the 2.7's (we've have two 2.7T's in the direct family). Which shop did you own? Thats tight. I help out at Autohaus and Mark Kingsbury (chift instruct. of ACNA) for Audi track days.
Your right about the V6's not having much potential short of a Ripp Mods kit for $$ but I wouldn't mind driving an SRT-4 swapped GS/RS which can be done for relatively less moeny compared to most big swapps.
300whp is really not that much of a stretch on a well tuned 1.8T. I've seen dyno runs on straight-piped and chipped 1.8T's that put them into the 250-260 WHP range, though admittedly not through tiptronic boxes.
Yea the ripp mods kits seem to be ok. I have heard mixed review on them
SRT-4? Hadn't seen that. What I have seen however is the EVO head, manifold and turbo bolting right up to the 4G64 along with the brakes which I could do but I think i'm gonna stop with the suspension stuff on this car. I'd really like to get something else but I doubt it will happen unless the motor blows or it gets totaled. I'm a college student and my dad supports me and he hopes that this car lasts all the way through college but, I highly doubt it will. It's already got close to 80k miles on blown 02 sensor, Idle speed motor, and the plugs and wires needed to be swapped out last year but my dad has not had the money with certian things that have been coming up with my mom just about every month. I'm just greatful to have a car at this point but I still think 'man I wish I could get this'. Now what I mean?
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10
10-4. I know that car head to toe. My cosin who's is about to graduate from UGA had one for his first car. V6 GT 4 speed automatic baby. The **** was so clean and new at the time. I can't tell you how many times I almost died, raced, dohnutted and utterly dominated the passenger seat in that thing (I was 13-14 at the time). Good memories. It had AEM cold air, exhaust,sway bars and a few other clean things. It was a pure dog..went 84mph in 2nd gear but we beat a GSR with 3 people in it from a roll. He was looking into a ripp mods supercharger by the time I was about to get my car but little did he know his cosin has acquired good taste and was about to get an E36 M3. Needless to say he sold it and got a B5 S4 to try to one up me.
As far as the evo stuff I've heard of that...but my buddy has a clean GS and told me its essentailly an N/A 2.4 SRT-4 motor and its literally a direct swap for about 5 grand. 300whp on that thing would be amusing.
You just say dumb stuff and make an ass of yourself all the time.
Well if you mod an audi you better go big or go home. No crap wheels, you have to spend around $2000, which is why its almost better not to change them and just get coilovers and engine stuff. You have to be on vw/audi forums to see what I'm talking about.
Anything can go wrong. It's not always the same stuff, but random little things you might be quoted $800-1000 to fix. My mom had an A6 and it was one thing after another. She could have bought an m5 with all the money invested in that car.
Errr please reveal the source of these numbers. Are we talking k04 1.8t or k03s 1.8t? Paul had one of the highest hp k03s's on vortex and that was 220, most make roughly 200.
And if we are talking k04 tt, then you are saying they are making 300awhp?
I may be forgetting something but these numbers just don't seem right.
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Trust me man if I were to get one I would definitely go big. It would be my first boosted car, awd car, and euro all at the same time.
I also want to know where you got those numbers keiser because from what I have seen that's damn near impossible not to mention from what I understand the stock rods get weak around 300
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10
^^^. He's got to be referring to a K04'd 1.8T. They are more likely to achieve 300whp if you push them.
Yeah but going big would require a 3.2 and sending it to HPA. Have you ever heard the 3.2 in an R32 or TT with a simple exhaust mod? I gaurentee you'd trash the 1.8T idea just by hearing that.
Damn this thread I want one now. Stock
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=URqr0VG0FJ0
HPA Exhaust..catless
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=u0ye3qNyCkw
HPA TT 3.2 runs 11's @126
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvANMz...eature=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cQw4XhCLWWQ
Last edited by OnURleft; 03-31-2008 at 10:54 PM.
I worked as a valet at a hotel during highschool. I was never real impressed with the Audi TTs. After driving many of them I felt they were over priced for what they offered. But then again, I was parking cars in a garage so I couldnt really "test drive" as it should have been.
Sweet looking rides though.
I'm sorry I don't have dyno graphs from other people's cars whom I've met, but they certainly had them to prove it. I certainly wish I did because I certainly feel rather exposed all things considered.
Anyways, I've seen both k03s in the 230-240 fwhp range, and k04 in the 250ish awhp range, again with no cat on test pipe and limited restriction exhaust, with a chip and a decent tune. I've never sat and tuned or watched the dyno of one myself, but considering these are ordinary folk providing papers for their cars as proof, I accept what they're telling me. I've seen higher numbers without proof but from reliable sources, including a shop owner who had tuned a car into the near 300's, supposedly. Since he had no proof at the time, I didn't bring it up. Vortex tends to be a conservative bunch, I spend more of my time lurking there than I do posting here, and they're less likely as a whole to push an engine past it's limits to get a big "score" in the horsepower game.
Obviously there are plenty of factors that can go into that rating, and they may ~not~ be the normal range for the engine, but I've certainly seen numbers that suggest differently from your experience, and I spend a great deal of my time around Audi's and their owners.
As far as the rods bit, they're weak period in most versions of the engine, so I won't argue that. Doesn't make the range we're talking about suddenly unachievable, just significantly less durable. If we're going to argue about the internals of an engine though, there's some to be said about the A4's V6 internals as well. VR6 is a different story.
Last edited by Kaiser; 04-01-2008 at 07:30 PM.
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