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    this is where detonation comes in, because it causes huge spikes in the force upon the internals. preignition/detonation causes the air/fuel to burn while the piston is still traveling upward being pushed by the rest of the engine, so it's kind of like the difference between running your car into a stopped semi truck at 30mph or hitting the same semi truck head on when they're coming at you at 60mph. the forces placed on the parts are multiplied, and then suddenly your nicely tuned engine becomes shrapnel. the counterpart to this is heat, because as pressure increases so does the temperature (why tune by the EGT gauge ). extreme pressure causes extreme heat, which compounds the problem of bad tuning causing burned pistons/valves if you're lucky enough not to throw a rod through the block.
    hence why most high horsepower turbo cars melt down on 4th gear pulls or pull on the highway cause the EGTs go through the roof. at least from whati have seen. lots of long pulls can blow shit up and melt pistons QUICK.

    also, its a known fact the 350z motors have weak rods. yes you can get away with 10-12psi, for how long though? i mean, its possible, hell i have seen 450whp stock sleeves and rods in a honda motor, but if you are boosting ALL THE TIME EVERY DAY, it aint gonna last. not IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by vteckidd
    hence why most high horsepower turbo cars melt down on 4th gear pulls or pull on the highway cause the EGTs go through the roof. at least from whati have seen. lots of long pulls can blow shit up and melt pistons QUICK.
    that is pretty true overall. long highway pulls, for example, will send me into the red (1600+ degrees) but bursts of WOT for a half mile or so at a time won't get it much over 1400 degrees (measured about 1" from the head flange in the exhaust manifold). it just goes back to square one, it's creating more pressure and more heat. if you stay in it for a long distance the pistons/cylinder walls will eventually soak up that heat and reach their melting point or at least a temp where they will be able to stretch/bend under the loads in the cylinders, then mr. engine goes bye bye .

    and then again, a bunch of kids with stock SR's will slap on a T28 and turn up the boost well beyond what the stock computer/maf/injectors can handle and do the same thing in about 1/8 mile of jumping on the gas .

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiPSI
    that is pretty true overall. long highway pulls, for example, will send me into the red (1600+ degrees) but bursts of WOT for a half mile or so at a time won't get it much over 1400 degrees (measured about 1" from the head flange in the exhaust manifold). it just goes back to square one, it's creating more pressure and more heat. if you stay in it for a long distance the pistons/cylinder walls will eventually soak up that heat and reach their melting point or at least a temp where they will be able to stretch/bend under the loads in the cylinders, then mr. engine goes bye bye .

    and then again, a bunch of kids with stock SR's will slap on a T28 and turn up the boost well beyond what the stock computer/maf/injectors can handle and do the same thing in about 1/8 mile of jumping on the gas .
    i agree 100%. in turbo cars its critical to watch EGTs as it really coincides much more with detonation than a NA car.

    Its funny to see guys shootign for 400whp but dont even have a EGT gauge
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