Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
I'm not talking about going too hot in a turn, saying if there is a reason you have to stop in a blind turn I can engine brake (harsh rev match) alot quicker than someone with two hands on the wheel trying to brake without downshifting. Driving schools teach you how to steer and control a car under hard breaking, there's a reason for it.

Regarding the photo, after 10 years of personally organizing mountain runs I've had ONE person involved in an incident...that was an unassociated oncoming bike that dropped and slid into one our cars (NemesisDigital).

One incident in 10 years and then only one person on any of MY runs has ever gotten a speeding ticket and that was afterwards heading south on Hwy. 400. That's out of easily 75-100 different people, some who have gone on to be professional rally drivers and pro/semi-pro drifters.
ill just agree to disagree.... two different things, 1 works for you but doesnt for me