damn. is that me talking? those are the thing that I tell everyone when instructing. looking ahead is the hardest for people. do it on the street and it will transfer to the track...
damn. is that me talking? those are the thing that I tell everyone when instructing. looking ahead is the hardest for people. do it on the street and it will transfer to the track...
Horrible advice. The street and the track are two different animals and thus require very different skills. Look at any LEO or Federal agent proficient in high speed driving. It is all about calculation. They are constantly scanning the cars around them as they represent a much bigger threat than anything on the horizon. The problem is predictability. On a track, no one is going to slam on their brakes because a rabbit is running across the road.Originally Posted by matthewAPM
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i dont know bout that. ive thought myself too look as far as possible down the road and my peripheral vision helps with those right next to me.
1.Be alert!
2. drive with both hands on wheel and only take off to shift, but put right back
3. learn to rev match and heel toe
those are things you can learn on the street!
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Im not saying go out and drive 10/10th on the street. thats stupid. but u can heel/toe, look ahead, practice good driving position etc.
i think my tranny, clutch, and engine really love me after i started to do it like second nature.... saves components... #1 reason i do it.
Negative.
Always look as far as you can and your peripheral vision will naturally see what's around you, doesn't mean focus on anything specific just look far ahead and take notice of what's going on and your surroundings. It's the people that drive staring at the taillights of the vehicle in front of them that cause accidents then because they are so fixated on the 20 feet in front of them they can't see what's ahead or either side.
Bingo. Just curious, when the rear lets go or in a spin do you teach keeping both hands on the wheel?
Ive never "taught" but from my 300zx days.... id say yes... i remember using both hands to countersteer (you can do it with one) but still goes to the principle you have more control with both hands.
General counter steering yes, as in the rear kicks out a little and you react to it but if you're in an all out slide or drift there is no possible way you can keep two hands on the wheel and still maintain control unless you have an insane steering quickener with lock to lock being like 180°. If the rear seriously lets go and you keep two hands on a wheel you normally can't turn it far enough to prevent a spin and there is no way you can bring it back fast enough to the point needed to maintain control and doing it without over correcting. The wheel will straighten itself out, countersteer as needed and keep a steady throttle (or lay into it depending on the power and tires the car has).
I've watched countless in-car race video's and you can tell before it happens who's going to crash or be in the kitty litter just from their reactions when the rear steps out.
I always get called out on mtn. runs for using one hand through blind turns...one on the steering wheel and one on the shift knob. I always look as far through the inside corner of a turn as possible so if there does happen to be a bicycle or obstruction in the road you can react fast enough to it. With two hands on the wheel there is no way you can downshift, brake, and steer at the same time. The time it takes to get from the wheel to the shift knob may be that extra second needed to avoid a collision. After twelve years of running in the mtns and never once had a close call because of it.
by both hands i mean alternating wrists as you turn... not gripping tight with both palms!
"With two hands on the wheel there is no way you can downshift, brake, and steer at the same time. The time it takes to get from the wheel to the shift knob may be that extra second needed to avoid a collision."
you dont need to. Car controls are such where you hold the wheel with both hands at the right momenents and the shift knob to change gear for that "very short moment!"
About that extra second to avoid collision.... What exactly does putting your hand down to shift change from either braking or accelerating and streering during an incident? I feel that, if you need to shift during a turn, then do it! We dont have three arms so its impossible to shift with both hands steering but i dont think that "second to shift" is as dramatic as you say. With enough practice at using both hands you #1 cut that second down and #2 you are most alert if you need to do something (shift, steer, brake, acc, whatever).
doesnt it make more sense to be able to steer the car instead of downshifting? i mean, if it really comes down to it, just push in the clutch and coast (or brake, whatever is necessary) past the bike or deer or midget or whatever is in the road. you dont NEED to downshift. when your in a situation where you are actually faced with something you have to avoid, your focus should shift from going fast/making a good time to saving the car, yourself, the midget dancing in the middle of the road, and not having any sort of damage done to either party.
2 hands on the wheel FTW
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both hands on the wheel and both feet in.
once you have been around a few times you can start trying to downshift while spinning. haha.
huh, both feet into what? The brakes?!
brakes and clutch
I don't mean to be an ass, but a rabbit could very likely run across a race track. There are sometimes deer at RA and I'm sure we've all seen videos of that kangaroo getting hit in Australia. Just because its a track doesn't mean there aren't any outside hazards.
I wanna say it was king rat motorsports that hit a deer in there Spec Miata during the 13hr of VIR
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