thats funny .... i had to leave that forum b4 i got myself in trouble .. hate people like that ... saying thats not a honda its a MUGEN .... wow ok first off mugen isnt a car company ( idiots) and look at the shelby cobra .... yea it was fast ... yea it stopped on a dime .... do you see EVERY FORD DOING that ?????? i dont see every 4 banger mustang or v6 mustang doing that .... Y not ???????? lol they can keep the american POS ... chevy = made in canada ... so ford and the rest must be made in Mexico eh ./.. GTFO somewhere . every one has there taste .. id much rather have 260 hp and 173 Lb of torque and maybe 28-35 MPG than 1-8 mpg for 400HP .... so yea .. no offense to people who drives ford and chevy ... but i like imports and not RICED ...