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[matthewAPM]

Wow! I'm really sorry you got treated that way. I've only been involved with NASA for about a year and half and have had nothing but a very positive experience. Although, I did have one instructor at CMP tell me that I needed a faster car or move back to DE1, but I was driving like an asshat that particular weekend for some reason.

I think there were some issues with SE that seem to have been worked out. I certainly will not argue the point that SCCA seems to be more serious. One of the things I've really liked about NASA-SE's events is the "laid back"-ness. Now, when it has been neccessary for the Regional Director, or the Race Director, to have conversations with people that were misbehaving on track, they won't hesitate to go so far as to ask people to not come back.

Anyway, I won't tey to say that one program is better than the other. I haven't done a SCCA PDX, yet, so I can't compare the two experiences.

I really dont like the NASA guys. Seem to stuck up for regional racers. They made me have an instructor ride with me (not sure why because I have my SCCA and FIA license) and he told me I needed to go faster. Come to find out I ran faster times than he did and I was on street tires! WTF is up with that. Thats what I hated most about the event. The instructors think there the best in the world yet when they come to an SCCA road race I run all over them. SCCA events are the most organized well put together events period. Nothing compaires.

hey redrumracer, y dont u come out to an SCCA autocross or PDX event? scared you will get ur a** beat because u cant drive?

[Elbow]

SCCA events are the most organized well put together events period. Nothing compaires.

hey redrumracer, y dont u come out to an SCCA autocross or PDX event? scared you will get ur a** beat because u cant drive?

Well said, and his car is not a race car. And you dont race at PDX's. So you cant get beat. Autocross yes.

Do you have to be a worker to run C group PDX? I want to play with you next time

[matthewAPM]

Well said, and his car is not a race car. And you dont race at PDX's. So you cant get beat. Autocross yes.

Do you have to be a worker to run C group PDX? I want to play with you next time

Then he can road race. lol.

You dont have to work to run in the C group. It is just free if you do. I will be at the first PDX in the civic but after that it will be in SSC with the mazda.

[StraightSix]

I really dont like the NASA guys. Seem to stuck up for regional racers. They made me have an instructor ride with me (not sure why because I have my SCCA and FIA license) and he told me I needed to go faster. Come to find out I ran faster times than he did and I was on street tires! WTF is up with that. Thats what I hated most about the event. The instructors think there the best in the world yet when they come to an SCCA road race I run all over them. SCCA events are the most organized well put together events period. Nothing compaires.

In general, check rides are pretty standard operating procedure. I feel like over the past year, our events have improved quite a bit, both in organization, personnell and flow.

Were both your's and Simon's experiences with SE, or with MA (mid-atlantic, used to be NASA-Virginia)? I've heard quite a few complaints about MA's events from participants. In fact, one of those stories was from a firend of mine. The last time I worked with MA flagging was at VIR. Two of us SE guys went to work, and a couple more were there to drive. One was going to be in DE3, and the other came up on Sunday to shake down a Spec E30.

My buddy had been in DE3 for two SE events with no trouble. Matt knows how to handle his Miata, and quite well, too. Matt contacted the MA officials and was cleared to register for DE3. So, before we left Clemson, Matt pulled his passenger seat, so that he could fit an extra set of wheels in his car and not bring his tire trailer. I think I carried a second set up in the back of my Civic. We get to VIR Saturday morning, and Matt is told that he can't run DE3 because he doesn't have enough experience. He argued the point and told them that he allowed to register and that as a result his car had no passenger seat. He was told that MA's DE3 sessions were "faster" than SE's DE3 sessions, lol. Matt ended up driving my Civic in the first DE2 sessions on Saturday AND Sunday with an instructor. After the first sessions on both days he was soloed and drove his car.