Rota because i'm cheap.
Rota because they are still good looking wheels.
Spoon because i'm a whore.
Spoon because of functionality.
Ive had a set of rota c-8s on my car for about 3 years now, they have held up to high speed highway driving, dirt roads, country back roads and probably a hundred mountain runs. aside from a few knicks in the finish they still look the same as when i bought them. plus they look good, are light weight and fit the car well. i didnt buy them to have a "jdm" look, but more simply because i thought they fit the car.
there is always a line to be drawn in the sand...
function or form...... Rota is form, Spoon is function.... i DD my Modia KT205r's... i haven't found another set on ebay or any internet site... so if i curb, bend, scratch, or heaven forbid destroy one... i'm screwed.... but i choose not to roll anything BUT JDM.... i'd rather curb my precious wheel than to say oh yeah my car is FULL JDM... except those... they are rotas. (silence...dots) yeah...
i'm not an elitist.... but i can NOT stand it when people refer to wheels as a Jspec, JDM, Jtuned, J anything when it is NOT a japanese wheel or a wheel that falls under the JDM category, its irritating.
Last edited by mocha latte cupcake; 10-21-2007 at 10:32 PM.
Agreed^^^^
Why don't someone just make a thread about Rota vs Drag. A $200 difference in price and no bias in opinions!
If you only DD your car, how is Spoon more functional than Rota? Are Rotas not round? I bought my Rotas because they were the right size, offset, price and because many others have used Rotas for the same purpose in which I wanted to use them (HPDE) with success. Because of the price, I was able to budget money for more important things: tires, brake pads, entry fees (the price difference between Rotas and their brand name counterpart was worth 3-4 track days). To me, they were a purely functional purchase, they look ok, not great but not ugly. And no, they have not broke yet, and most likely won't break soon.Originally Posted by PURE jdm
Please tell me if you think my car looks good. But don't tell me if you think it's ugly - only on IA
i prefer my lightwheel wheels because when i street race i count my OZ's and it may be dumb to some but i like it that way, stripped, 1/4 tank of gas, lightweight wheels, and on the south beach diet lol (not really but it seemed funny) every pound i have counts to me in my acceleration, deceleration, cornering etc. i don't like Rotas b/c they are trash in my eyes, it has ruined the wow factor of many wheels and i can't stand the outrageous price they charge for a "jdm" look. they are round, however like i said before i won't rock rotas... i did at one time and they were gone within a week b/c they didn't fit me right. i can understand a budget but honestly paying 900+ for your rotas doesn't compete with my LIGHTER, STRONGER, RARER, 350 JDM TRUE JDM wheels. i got love for people lookin to save price but my biggest thing isn't for saving money, its a wow factor.... a functionality factor.... and all round makes me hella happier than looking just like everyone else factor
Me personally, I dislike rota not because of the look, but because they made unique one-of-a-kind wheels common. Just say if you had your spoon wheels on an EG before rota dropped their slips, you were unique at that time because no one had a similar wheel. Now if that same person comes out today, he's just any regular EG because Rota took a unique wheel and mass produced it. That's the only reason why I dislike rota. I give Rota props for making some really decent copy, but by mass producing unique rims it kinda took away the "WOW" from the originals.
EXACTLY! /THREAD
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Your first post on this forum is a ****ing repost from EARLIER IN THE THREAD?!
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word... shut em down... as long as he voted firstYour first post on this forum is a ****ing repost from EARLIER IN THE THREAD?!
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anyway... im going to bed and i expect to see 2478 votes when i wake up.
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a couple of you guys haven't voted yet
i just realized my user title is so appropriate for this thread!!!
OOOO an enthusiat!!?
all of you rota fans need to recognize the fact that the quality control and fit/ finish isn't there. so if it's for a bucket, i fully understand your reluctance to spend the loot on a volk/ spoon/ work, etc. yes they are better than steelies for a daily driver.
now i have had incidents where a rota would've caused me to flip the car vs just bending some volks and walking away from an accident.
I currently own racinghart and volk wheels as well as enkei and rota. I don't even particularly like the design of the 'spoom' wheels.
I have also balanced my own wheels and tires on many occasions - although I don't do it professionally anymore. Take one of your beloved rota's and put it on the balancer without any tires or wheelweights. Wow, they are out of balance and actually wobble straight from the factory! Now I have done this with my racingharts and volks as well and noticed none of those issues whatsoever.
So in conclusion, if you care about your ass on and off track make sure you choose carefully.
I only read of one other guy who actually seems to do lapping days or autox in this thread, and he has rota's. For autox, I'd be less concerned about deformation that I would be for lapping days. But as you know, wheels are a wear item when you are racing..... You have got to have that worry in the back of your mind - 'are my wheels going to fail me this event?'
you bring up some very good points...but you gotta admit in a place where the highest speed you can legally go is maybe 80mph i dont think these wheels are gonna matter. they have all been approved for use on public highways so they must be safe enough for your daily driver. and i guarantee you cannot tell the difference between a real spoon and a slip while driving to burger king. on the track or at a car show where that **** matters im sure you can find a flaw....but sitting in your driveway i like it. once again...im not trying to sway you guys away from your beloved spoons. im just bringing up good points that should be considered as much as your points are considered. if having the absolute best product is a must then why are we all driving civics to begin with? you cant polish a turd!
TurdYou have had three civics
Alright im done whoreing out this thread................
Last edited by JDMjoe86; 10-22-2007 at 01:10 PM.
actually i have had 7 over the past 3 years or so and on those 7 cars were a total of 3 sets of fake ass cheap wheels and you know how many times they failed me? zero times! i drive a civic not a full on race car. therefore i dont see the advantage to these super expensive hyped up wheels (that is my opinion)Turd
Alright im done whoreing out this thread................
opinion - noun
1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.
we all have opininions here. of course i think i am right and you think you are right...in reality we are all right. none of us are saying spoon wheels are ****ty. i just dont see how they can be so much better for daily driving your ****ty civic. i drive a ****ty civic and i dont think $1300 worth of aluminum will make it any better! so for $700 cheaper i can roll on some wheels that to most ppl are just a stylish wheel.
i can see where you guys would hate rota's though..i have a freind with real spoons and ppl are always commenting on his slips! he could have saved some money and no one would have cared
but can you tell a difference while you are rolling on them? does the car roll better through the parking lot at macy's? i guess on that trip to your girlfreinds house you can be rest asured that you are safer with those spoon rims that you would be with any other dot approved rim....i know it seems like i am being a **** here but im just debating. im sure they have advantages on the track but for daily use i just dont see it.
after all, wearing a rubber is great when you are banging a nasty from the club but for the daily grind with your steady girlfreind just raw dog it for the cheap!
what happened to that?
CAN'T..........STOP...........POSTING
haha... i've noticed... well i just got dissed on another thread cause i was messing with some newbies and then got called out cause im a noob myself in the scheme of things... i was on a roll too haha
i think its funny that companies like Drag make knock-off Rotas and Rotas are knock-offs themselves... they actually advertise them as "Rota Replicas"... hahaha
LOL YUP
rota does design a couple of their wheels on their own, but with 429874598345 wheels on the market right now you can't tell what's what unless it's a design that is extremely popular or had a lot of media or underground coverage.
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FROM THE ROTA WEBSITE.... its worth a read for all you OEM loving folks
HISTORY
Philippine Aluminum Wheels Inc. (PAWI), was established on October 8, 1976 as a joint venture between FPS of Italy and Romeo S. Rojas to engage in the manufacture of alloy wheels in the Philippines.
The company's first production of its Rota brand of wheels was in 1977, with an initial production capacity of 4,000 wheels a month. In just the company's first year, Rota wheels are chosen by Chrysler-Mitsubishi (Philippines) as OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) for its vehicles passing through the stringent OEM specifications of its parent company in Japan.
The following year saw other major car assemblers engaging the services of the company to manufacture their OE wheel requirements for their vehicles. These companies included Ford, Datsun, Isuzu, Mercedes-Benz, Opel and Volkswagen.
In 1983, after seven years of operation, PAWI became a 100% Filipino corporation. It also marked the year that Japanese technology was introduced into the company's manufacturing operations.
In 1988, PAWI develops its "magnesium-strengthened, heat treatable alloy," making Rota wheels lighter yet stronger and more durable. The following year saw a major upgrade of facilities as PAWI introduced state-of-the-art technological improvements in the form of the latest equipment and machines that speed up and improve chemical analysis, machining, painting and finishing. With the comeback of Toyota into the Philippine market, they chose Rota wheels as their OE wheels, as well as Daihatsu.
In 1990, a milestone was met when PAWI hits a record production of 20,000 Rota wheels per month.
Today, PAWI produces alloy wheels of world-class quality, using state-of-the-art technology. A new series of upgrading has since boosted its production capacity to new heights of 50,000 wheels a month. More than ten times of its capacity when it first started.
Nice find sir!
Off topic but, from enkei's website
WHAT COMPANIES RELY ON ENKEI'S QUALITY MANUFACTURING STANDARDS?
A. ENKEI supplies the following companies as Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM): Honda, Mitsubishi, Subaru, Suzuki, Mazda, Toyota, Yamaha, Kawasaki, Nissan, NISMO, GM Holden, General Motors and Ford.
B. ENKEI is Official Supplier in the following racing Series:
• FIA Formula One (F1): McLaren Mercedes
• FIA World Rally championship (WRC): Mitsubishi Ralliart
• All Japan Grand Touring Car Championship (JGTC) GT 500 Class and GT 300 Class
• Super Taikyu – Endurance Series. Classes 1, 2, 3, 4 and N+
• D1GP Drifting Championship and Formula Drift Championship. Team RS-R, Team TEIN and Vaughn Gittin “JR” Team FALKEN.
You don't see rota in the formula one
Last edited by JDMjoe86; 10-22-2007 at 07:05 PM.
wow... a nice comment in this heated battle... +1
why you gotta ruin your good comment with that ridiculous ass statement... if i ever see a rota on a formula one car i swear to god i will ****ing throw myself onto the track cause the whole field to pile up killing at least 10 people including me and then i want them to say on the news... "all these senseless deaths due to a bad wheel choice of rotas on this million dollar car"... of course you dont see rota in the formula one, they are not even CLOSE to a reasonable quality for going in excess of 225 mph... damnit joe... now you got me all flustered.
::: quote from wiki answers on the cost of a formula one car :::
"With the extensive knowledge of composites necessary today, teams will stop at nothing to gain an advantage. Typical top team budgets are in excess of 350M US$ per year. M Shumacher is still the highest paid athlete in the world I believe, but I could be mistaken with our insane lust for sports in the US...perhaps someone has elcipsed his earnings by now."
in closing... i think they can afford to spend more than $100 a wheel
Last edited by clean_dodge; 10-22-2007 at 07:59 PM.
LOL You had a point, so i had a point, car manufactors choose rota to make there wheels but so does enkei. I would choose enkei
I've owned rotas and now I got Volk Te37s... It feels a lot better to have the real deal and the quality of the te's is a lot better than the rotas. I really have no preference on which wheel's I'd rather ride though. I do, however, think that wheels sets any car off big time, so you shouldn't cheap out on them. I got my rotas as temps until i got enough for the te's.
you pay for what you get ...that is all
i can tell the difference between a 15" rota slip and a 15" spoon w388. Like i stated before, i really dont care about spoon wheels but because of all the bitching and comparing from the past, ive trained my eyes. Physical differences are there, and the finish.
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a lot of people who roll on spoon wheels dont even have the spoon sticker on them, so they just look like any other wheel....Regamaster evos are the real deal, if you want to spend upwards $1600, then you should buy some desmond regamasters and actually keep the sticker on so people will reka-motha****in-ize your JDM.
spoon wheels and desmond regamasters are the same wheel manufacture
spoon wheels have no stickers on their new models just their original wheels
Can't believe this thread is still going on...
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i knew that desmond made spoons but i think desmonds look better
here is a pic of the new spoons....its not a sticker, i dont think, it might be paint
just cause
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