Porsche Has Lost It

[speedminded]

I never thought the Cayenne would be such a sucess. I would never pay the price for one. Even if I was rich. The price difference between the non-turbo and turbo model is ludacris.

Funny you say that, How much was a 996 Turbo when the $85k Cayenne Turbo came out? $130,000. Say you have the money to spend but you gotta sell the idea to your spouse or simply need to justifying owning a 450hp vehicle, $130k 2 seater or a $85k 4 seater? Which one do you think would be easier to justify for the average household? Then think about insurance cost and what if you have kids? Plus think about the cost of a QX56, any high end US made SUV, lincoln, escalade, etc. you can get a base Cayenne...i'd get the Porsche too

As for the 4 door car, someone already mentioned the Maserati: it has made an incredible comeback -- As for Ferrari, the Maserati IS basically a Ferrari...both their parent companies is FIAT and many share the same parts

Note: What follows is personal opinion. If you do not like it.....though.


The problem I see with these Porsche variants (4 door and SUV) is that they cannot design anything unique. The 4-door design is simple a stretched 2 door. The SUV is simple a lifted/streched 2-door. Just because a design works for a sportscar, does not mean you can use the same shape for every vehicle. They seem afraid to do something unique with the design of these cars.

Are you saying the 911 design that's been around for 40 years isn't good enough and requires a major change to be successful?

[Mike Lowrey]

Are you saying the 911 design that's been around for 40 years isn't good enough and requires a major change to be successful?

I am saying it works for the 911 i.e. sportscar. Just because that works, does not mean it makes a good SUV or 4-door car.

[speedminded]

I am saying it works for the 911 i.e. sportscar. Just because that works, does not mean it makes a good SUV or 4-door car.

The Cayenne has been 48% of Porsche sales, by 2005 1,000,000 had been sold...someone must think it works you know? They needed something to compete with Benz M-class and BMW's X5 anyways. Speaking of the X5, i find it crazy that Hartge built one that could out run and out handle the earlier model Z06...in a 4 door SUV with relatively basic engine and suspension mods

Don't forget Saab, Volvo, and Audi all have SUV's now too. Porsche took a chance with the SUV and it was successful, even though it's been slacking for a while but i'm sure with the profit they've made they'll get back on track with the things that really matter...besides the 4 door sedans