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    for $8000 you can duplicate my setup which made 240whp on PUMP GAS

    Contact Don Flores at DFE enterprises and you i guarantee the power your looking for WITHOUT ITBs an on PUMP GAS.

    My setup was:
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    Skunk2 PRO3s
    DFE Ported head
    Hytech Header
    CP 12:1 pistons
    Eagle Rods
    Stock LS crank
    AEBS intake with 70mm Skunk2 TB
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. KiDD
    for $8000 you can duplicate my setup which made 240whp on PUMP GAS

    Contact Don Flores at DFE enterprises and you i guarantee the power your looking for WITHOUT ITBs an on PUMP GAS.

    My setup was:
    2.0l
    LSVTEC
    Skunk2 PRO3s
    DFE Ported head
    Hytech Header
    CP 12:1 pistons
    Eagle Rods
    Stock LS crank
    AEBS intake with 70mm Skunk2 TB
    cost you 8k?? damn..... looks good though. and shows that its possible and relatively easy to make power. but i want a b20/vtec they arent as common to see... built anyways

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    Quote Originally Posted by SL65AMG
    cost you 8k?? damn..... looks good though. and shows that its possible and relatively easy to make power. but i want a b20/vtec they arent as common to see... built anyways
    ... i have one
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    Quote Originally Posted by DB1_77
    ... i have one
    i didnt say theyre like gold.... i said theyre not as common...... like silver

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    Quote Originally Posted by SL65AMG
    cost you 8k?? damn..... looks good though. and shows that its possible and relatively easy to make power. but i want a b20/vtec they arent as common to see... built anyways
    Mine was professionally assembled and engine dynoed and included all OEM parts , gaskets, machine work, etc

    Mine was a LS BLOCK sleeved to 84.5mm. but you can run a b20 block an get the same results.

    And Speedminded , thats PAcMans car, no way that car can be done for $8000.

    RSX Type-S Swap $4200
    Hasport Motor Mounts-$650
    Kpro-$1000
    Karcepts box-$85
    Fuel Lines/Clutch Lines-$350
    Radiator-$250
    misc hoses,lines-$200
    FPR-$200 (aeromotive)

    thats before ITBs, tuning, install, welding, cutting, wheels, clutch, suspension, etc.

    K series isnt worth it, too much money IMO. you can make more power with a B series for the same amount of money.

    THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE NOT MAKING POWER WITH NA SETUPS IS ASSEMBLY AND MACHINE WORK. make sure you know what you are doing .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. KiDD
    THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE NOT MAKING POWER WITH NA SETUPS IS ASSEMBLY AND MACHINE WORK. make sure you know what you are doing .
    Quoted for Truth and Emphasis

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    Quote Originally Posted by KPowerEP3
    Quoted for Truth and Emphasis
    as in poor machine work and incorrect assembly???

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    Quote Originally Posted by SL65AMG
    as in poor machine work and incorrect assembly???
    The difference in assembly means everything...

    for instance:

    the specs for the cam journals are on the outer limits of their acceptable tolerances... instead of re-machining the journal, old buddy says "eh, it'll be alright..." and lets it slide.

    Meanwhile, someone who takes extreme pride in their work would take the journal that was almost out of spec, and machine it to where it was right where it is supposed to be.

    Every heard of an engine that runs a tad rougher than another being reffered to as one being assembled on friday before a holiday weekend? The tiniest little things make the biggest difference.

    Cylinder sleeves and valve journals are the best example of this.

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    edit* a TypeR transmission would be nice, but a B16 with an KAAZ lsd would be a lot more agressive in the corners.

    as far as clutches goes, you would be find running a full face or 6 puck clutch. Just look at the horsepower rating for the friction disk and you'll be fine. Remember, the fewer pucks that are on the clutch, the more agressive, but the trade-off it clutch longevity. (if you don't want to replace a clutch every year, don't get a 3 puck)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DB1_77
    The difference in assembly means everything...

    for instance:

    the specs for the cam journals are on the outer limits of their acceptable tolerances... instead of re-machining the journal, old buddy says "eh, it'll be alright..." and lets it slide.

    Meanwhile, someone who takes extreme pride in their work would take the journal that was almost out of spec, and machine it to where it was right where it is supposed to be.

    Every heard of an engine that runs a tad rougher than another being reffered to as one being assembled on friday before a holiday weekend? The tiniest little things make the biggest difference.

    Cylinder sleeves and valve journals are the best example of this.

    -jonathan

    edit* a TypeR transmission would be nice, but a B16 with an KAAZ lsd would be a lot more agressive in the corners.

    as far as clutches goes, you would be find running a full face or 6 puck clutch. Just look at the horsepower rating for the friction disk and you'll be fine. Remember, the fewer pucks that are on the clutch, the more agressive, but the trade-off it clutch longevity. (if you don't want to replace a clutch every year, don't get a 3 puck)
    old buddy, if you are referring to him specifically, knows his shit.... give him some credit.

    b16 with said LSD would cost the same as a type-r? performance wise would they be the same? the b16 has shorter gears?


    thanks for the info everyone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. KiDD
    Mine was professionally assembled and engine dynoed and included all OEM parts , gaskets, machine work, etc

    Mine was a LS BLOCK sleeved to 84.5mm. but you can run a b20 block an get the same results.

    And Speedminded , thats PAcMans car, no way that car can be done for $8000.

    RSX Type-S Swap $4200
    Hasport Motor Mounts-$650
    Kpro-$1000
    Karcepts box-$85
    Fuel Lines/Clutch Lines-$350
    Radiator-$250
    misc hoses,lines-$200
    FPR-$200 (aeromotive)

    thats before ITBs, tuning, install, welding, cutting, wheels, clutch, suspension, etc.

    K series isnt worth it, too much money IMO. you can make more power with a B series for the same amount of money.

    THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE NOT MAKING POWER WITH NA SETUPS IS ASSEMBLY AND MACHINE WORK. make sure you know what you are doing .
    hell ill be buying 3 engines for less than the price of that one. b20 longblock (2 for $999 +shipping) B16A Swap.... with tranny and axles and everything.

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