German Muscle vs. Japanese Hustle (335i vs IS350)

[BlkCD5]

Are we done yet?

[d993s]

Are we done yet?

No...............








Lexus= BMW wannabe

Lexus= GAY

BMW= sets the standard in this class

Lexus= tries to keep up with BMW, but fails

Lexus IS= was brought out to compete with the 3 series











I can add more. Ok, nevermind.

[OneSlow5pt0]

No...............








Lexus= BMW wannabe

Lexus= GAY

BMW= sets the standard in this class

Lexus= tries to keep up with BMW, but fails

Lexus IS= was brought out to compete with the 3 series











I can add more. Ok, nevermind.

u forgat benz > bmw

[d993s]

u forgat benz > bmw

Lately, yeah, but mainly because of their higher HP.
Let's hope quality improves to what Mercedes was until the early 1990's.

[OneSlow5pt0]

Lately, yeah, but mainly because of their higher HP.
Let's hope quality improves to what Mercedes was until the early 1990's.

yea,90s...was BMW's time,now Benz putting alot more power in their cars

kinda what cadillac is doin for american cars....i am loving what caddie is doin now

[DinanM3atl]

u forgat benz > bmw

At what?


Benz has ALWAYS been a Luxury Performance Car

BMW has ALWAYS been a Performance Luxury Car


If you want Luxury with some juice you get a benz. If you want a car with some juice that has some luxury you get a BMW. It is obvious because BMW offers manuals.

[OneSlow5pt0]

At what?


Benz has ALWAYS been a Luxury Performance Car

BMW has ALWAYS been a Performance Luxury Car


If you want Luxury with some juice you get a benz. If you want a car with some juice that has some luxury you get a BMW. It is obvious because BMW offers manuals.

where's BMW's supercar?

AMG > M power

[DinanM3atl]

where's BMW's supercar?

AMG > M power

When McLaren was motor shopping for the F1 I am pretty sure they ended up with a BMW

They also had the M1 way back in the day. Since when do you need a "supercar" to be a top car manufacturer?

Don't be stupid. There is no contest here. They are not evey in the same universe with respect to service and reliability.

I will have to give you this. New BMWs suck for reliability. I don't own anything past 99 and will never own anything past 04 or 05 when I get a new M3 sometime soon.

I really wish people would stop trying to say that BMW's are sports cars. Most BMW vehicles are sport sedans (i.e. sporty sedan). There is nothing "sports car" about a 3 series.

How are they not? Please explain.

Actually there IS a comparison. I have always wondered why the BMW crowd got so defensive when the IS350 came out. The IS350 is some areas is better than the BMW and in other areas it is not as good. Competition is good for all consumers.

The BMW is better where the "sports sedan" matters and not as good where it doesn't. Cup Holders(My e30 doesn't even have them at all and if you weigh more than 200 lbs you can't fit in the sports seat.) Rear Leg Room? Trunk Space?

Message to BMW 3-series nut-swingers:

Your car is not the ultimate vehicle. It is not the best car in the world. It is not a sports car.

My m3 is pretty damn good. It has 0-60 times comparable with Large American V8s. It can out handle many cars triple its price. 97 it won best handling car at any price. Beat a 355, viper, prelude SH(this won for under 20 or 25 i think) and an NSX(OMG NO WAY?!?!?!) It is a drivers race stock verse stock to a NSX.

There is a REASON mags compare new cars to M3s and 3 series. There is a reason why when lexus wanted to make a sports sedan they tried to better the 3 series... Because it is the best.


I know I come off like a douche bag and that is fine. The problem is 7/8th of you guys have never driven an M3 or a 3 series and yet you call me a nut swinger. Well drive the car like it is meant to be driven and then make a comparison. Come drive an M3 at Road Atlanta and see what the car is really about. Don't arm chair debate on the internet through here say and call me a nut swinger.

[Mike Lowrey]

My m3 is pretty damn good. It has 0-60 times comparable with Large American V8s. It can out handle many cars triple its price. 97 it won best handling car at any price. Beat a 355, viper, prelude SH(this won for under 20 or 25 i think) and an NSX(OMG NO WAY?!?!?!) It is a drivers race stock verse stock to a NSX.

I call BS. When did the M3 "outhandle" an NSX? LOL What were the criteria? Where is the data? This is funny. Face it, the M3 is a "sports sedan" NOT a sports car.

I know I come off like a douche bag and that is fine. The problem is 7/8th of you guys have never driven an M3 or a 3 series and yet you call me a nut swinger. Well drive the car like it is meant to be driven and then make a comparison. Come drive an M3 at Road Atlanta and see what the car is really about. Don't arm chair debate on the internet through here say and call me a nut swinger.

OK. When is the next BMW day @ Road Atlanta? I would love to run that track.

[BlkCD5]

originally posted by DinanM3atl
BMW is the ultimate driving machine

not trying to start shit, but this is an opinionated statement even though its their motto. Lets just say the comparison is just a bit twisted. Would you even give lexus credit for trying? Did anyone read my comparison between the two companies? Seems like most Bmw owners are more hostile towards a car that can potentially undercut them in some aspects.

Originally posted by DinanM3atl
What does it mean BMW can't touch Lexus service?

Meaning customer satisfaction. I believe they're reports on this.