Quote Originally Posted by japan4racing
it shouldnt have had any probs with ringlands either but it did. i had a buddy with an ls/vtec that may have been making 180whp that cracked 2 sleeves all motor ont he break-in ride home. its not a matter running low or high hp...its a matter of running any amount of hp after going into a motor and leaving stock parts that can break very easily. you can do as you please with your money and your motor. but you are setting your self up for heartache. im not really trying to jump in your shit about this but i just dont understand why the hell you wouldnt take care of all the parts while you are in there. it makes no sense to me to take the motor apart, half ass build it, and slap it together only to hope it holds. you may be better off slapping some used p72's in there untill you have the money saved to do it right. when you were in the land of intakes and headers it was semi-ok to skimp on the important stuff..but you are in big boy toy land now. it needs to be done right. im telling you this as a freind, patrick, because you are steady on your way to becoming one of those stories ppl tell when the question pops up about why or why not you shold be sleeving a motor. i have told ppl a million times..do it right the first time not the second, third, or fourth time. there is a reason why i have had the same stock gsr motor and 2 different turbo set-ups on it and it still runs strong.....just make sure you know what you are doing before you get into a money pit.
what reason would that be? you yourself said how you are still on a basemap after 6 months and you beat the shit out of your car. id say you are lucky more than anything else. and yeah i still agree that sleeves is a very good idea. i just dont have the bread for it. if you are saying its unsafe to run any amount of horsepower, then why not get the block sleeved on any rebuild? the only reason your buddy with 180whp would have cracked a sleeve is a bad tune. he must have detonated a lot and leaned out or something. i have never heard of anyone cracking a sleeve on that low of hp. if you are going to sleeve it, why not just get a dart block? there is always something else you can do to your motor. im not building this car to be a drag car. it wont ever see 400+ horsepower on these pistons. this will be a nice daily setup that i can take to the track every now and then. i am on 550cc injectors, and im not changing them out anytime soon. i will be shooting for the exact same horspower level i was before i blew it. the forged pistons are better than cast, and thats all this rebuild really is. a stock rebuild with better pistons and rods.