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    Default Old Debate - Can a FWD Car be a Sportscar?

    Can a stock FWD Car truly be a Sportscar? Not a "sporty" car so SRT-4 and Scion tC guys STFU. Just wondering what IA's opinion is on this long-beaten topic. Try to keep things civilized in the discussions.
    Last edited by Ran; 08-20-2007 at 04:20 PM.

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    tC's are sports cars dummy. They have 2 doors.
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    the pnly really sporty FWD cars i can think of is Celicas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nismo
    tC's are sports cars dummy. They have 2 doors.
    My Yaris has two doors, that suddenly makes it a Sportscar?

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    The 1990's Lotus Elan convertible was a turbocharged 4 cylinder FWD sports car that was a blast to drive. I took a few out when I worked with LotuSport back in the day.

    The 1990's Capri XR2 convertible is also one. Mazda powered turbo -4 roadster.

    The 1990's new MG roadster was also a FWD sports car.

    New Mini I suppose in decked out race trim.

    ITR is also one for sure IMO.

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    no

    RWD is just associated with the term "Sport Car", kinda like cake and ice cream!

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    lol. everyone with a fwd will say yes and everyone with a rwd/awd will say no. would be interesting to have the poll like this:
    []yes, and i drive a fwd
    []no, and i drive a fwd
    []yes, and i drive a rwd/awd
    []no, and i drive a rwd/awd


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    i never knew the elan was FWD....that car is so cool,i want one

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiki
    A sports car is type of automobile designed for sporting performance. While opinions differ as to the exact definition, most sports cars have two seats and two doors, and are designed to excel at a combination of acceleration, top speed, braking, and maneuverability. Great emphasis is often placed on handling—the ability of the car to remain in the control of the driver under challenging condition such as when the car's tires begin to lose their grip on corners.
    TO me this statement defines a sports car perfectly. A fwd car can excel in all those things. So i say yes. A fwd car can be a sports car. Its just that you can't buy FWD sports cars, you have to build them.

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    Think about it, when Honda made it's "sport cars" (nsx, s2000), it chose RWD for a reason. I also, dont believe you can "make" a car into a sport car (hence the true term Rice). It's predefined at the before hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick
    TO me this statement defines a sports car perfectly. A fwd car can excel in all those things. So i say yes. A fwd car can be a sports car. Its just that you can't buy FWD sports cars, you have to build them.
    thats PERFECT! Cannot be said any better than what was said in your quote!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdare23
    Think about it, when Honda made it's "sport cars" (nsx, s2000), it chose RWD for a reason. I also, dont believe you can "make" a car into a sport car (hence the true term Rice). It's predefined at the before hand.
    Tell that to a certain Mr. Jackson back in 1981 when he was running circles around the Car & Driver Magazine test team's Mustang in a Civic

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
    Tell that to a certain Mr. Jackson back in 1981 when he was running circles around the Car & Driver Magazine test team's Mustang in a Civic
    Was it stock? If not, it wasnt a production, out of a dealer sport car. If it was, it wasn't still viewed as a sport car.

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    are FWD cars used in any Motorsports??? ..... Yes. Therefore FWD cars can be Sportscars

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdare23
    I also, dont believe you can "make" a car into a sport car (hence the true term Rice).
    RICE: Rice Inspired Cosmetic Enhancement

    Rice is simply something serves no function other than to make a car look like something it isn't. There are more than an abundance of parts that can make a car sportier than it originally was while still serving a function.

    Edited the original question to reflect this post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by İhris
    are FWD cars used in any Motorsports??? ..... Yes. Therefore FWD cars can be Sportscars
    Not to bash you, but that's kinda of a half@ssed argument. My Yaris has it's own race series, but that hardly makes it a sportscar. You can go drift a Toyota Cressida but that doesn't make it a sportscar. The examples keep going, but I'm sure you get the point.

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    http://www.sportscarmarket.com/

    look for the Fwd cars

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    Since we are talking about stock cars, at what point does a car become a sports car? Is it all #'s. OR does the overall feel of the car determine whats a sports car and whats not? Why would a srt, or a si not be considered a sports car. Or better yet, why not a mazdaspeed 3?

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    awesome thread topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick
    Since we are talking about stock cars, at what point does a car become a sports car? Is it all #'s. OR does the overall feel of the car determine whats a sports car and whats not? Why would a srt, or a si not be considered a sports car. Or better yet, why not a mazdaspeed 3?
    That's the question, isn't it? The definition of a sports car has changed a lot since the Corvettes of the 60's. Where does it sit now?

    Also, the Mazdaspeed3 is a station-wagon. If you call it a sportscar, then consider my Yaris as Compact-Luxury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ran
    RICE: Rice Inspired Cosmetic Enhancement

    Rice is simply something serves no function other than to make a car look like something it isn't. There are more than an abundance of parts that can make a car sportier than it originally was while still serving a function.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiki
    Rice burner is a pejorative used initially to describe Asian-made — specifically Japanese-made — motorcycles and automobiles. Many variations have also been used, such as rice rocket for Japanese sport bikes.

    More contemporary use of the term rice burner, along with the prefix rice, has taken on an alternate pejorative meaning for an automobile that has been modified to give impression of high performance, but does not necessarily have any high-performance capabilities. This practice is in direct contrast to the "stealth" or "sleeper" style of automotive modification, where a vehicle may have major performance modifications, but the appearance remains similar to that of a stock model. In this manner, the appellation can apply to any vehicle regardless of country of origin. The most commonly modified cars are sport compacts, but the term can apply to any class of vehicle, including trucks
    Your definition the "new" definition of rice, but it started out representing the whole scene.

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    well u have sports car then u have a sports coupe

    whats the diffence

    as in celica is a sports coupe while a corvette is a sports car

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    What defines a sportscar? The definition of a sport bike is the RPM's it runs, my Triumph Daytona 955i was considered a sport touring bike because it redlined at 10,500, it would still run a 10.8 second quarter in stock form and out-handle most sport bikes.

    Is it the G-forces in a 60 mph slalom that defines a sports car or it's power to weight ratio? Just having two doors isn't an arguement because there's plenty of overweight coupes out...normally given the title "sport coupe".

    The Integra Type-R is definitely, without a doubt, a race worthy front wheel drive... with the proper tires anyways. Normally FF cars are given the name sport compact, there is no definite answer.
    Last edited by speedminded; 08-20-2007 at 04:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdare23
    Your definition the "new" definition of rice, but it started out representing the whole scene.
    New or old definition is subjective to personal opinion much like this thread title. Likewise, the thread is about whether or not there are factory FWD Sportscars, not what the definition of what RICE is.

    As for your statement that you can't make a car into a sportscar; I agree with you to an extent. Nothing you do to a car will change what it was from the showroom floor. However, I do believe that you can make a car compete or surpass sportscars which would, in essence, make it a "sports car" in it's own right. Is this situation, what keeps it from being a sportscar? Appearance? Performance numbers? Elitism? Again, it all depends on personal interpretation and opinion which is why I made this thread. I'm just looking at the opinion of others and yours has been well noted.

    Quote Originally Posted by HypnoToad
    well u have sports car then u have a sports coupe

    whats the diffence

    as in celica is a sports coupe while a corvette is a sports car
    I think they classify the new Z06 as a Supercar instead of a Sportscar. I may be wrong though.

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    This question does not have a answer, and this thread could go 1000 pages and we wouldn't have one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MKIV VR6
    lol. everyone with a fwd will say yes and everyone with a rwd/awd will say no. would be interesting to have the poll like this:
    []yes, and i drive a fwd
    []no, and i drive a fwd
    []yes, and i drive a rwd/awd
    []no, and i drive a rwd/awd
    I say yes and i drive a FWD and RWD car
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ran
    New or old definition is subjective to personal opinion much like this thread title. Likewise, the thread is about whether or not there are factory FWD Sportscars, not what the definition of what RICE is.

    As for your statement that you can't make a car into a sportscar; I agree with you to an extent. Nothing you do to a car will change what it was from the showroom floor. However, I do believe that you can make a car compete or surpass sportscars which would, in essence, make it a "sports car" in it's own right. Is this situation, what keeps it from being a sportscar? Appearance? Performance numbers? Elitism? Again, it all depends on personal interpretation and opinion which is why I made this thread. I'm just looking at the opinion of others and yours has been well noted.

    I think they classify the new Z06 as a Supercar instead of a Sportscar. I may be wrong though.
    no,i would never put a corvette as a super car...unless it was a callaway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick
    This question does not have a answer, and this thread could go 1000 pages and we wouldn't have one.
    Exactly, which is why I'm not looking for a solid answer. Merely opinions.

    Quote Originally Posted by HypnoToad
    no,i would never put a corvette as a super car...unless it was a callaway
    Checking the specs on the new Vette, I wouldn't be surprised if it got classified as one. Not like I'll ever be able to afford one either way though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ran
    Exactly, which is why I'm not looking for a solid answer. Merely opinions.

    Checking the specs on the new Vette, I wouldn't be surprised if it got classified as one. Not like I'll ever be able to afford one either way though.
    i would say a panoz was a supercar before a vette

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    Quote Originally Posted by HypnoToad
    i would say a panoz was a supercar before a vette
    There's only one production car powered by a Ford engine that's a supercar and it's not a Panoz

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
    There's only one production car powered by a Ford engine that's a supercar and it's not a Panoz
    Noble M400

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    To be a sports car you have to have over 100 horsepower, so that rules out the Yaris....
    Quote Originally Posted by blackboi50
    white power!!!!!! .....1

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    Quote Originally Posted by HypnoToad
    Noble M400
    Noble is not a production car in the US. I'm talking about the Saleen S7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nismo
    To be a sports car you have to have over 100 horsepower, so that rules out the Yaris....
    106 factory rated.

    Back on topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
    Noble is not a production car in the US. I'm talking about the Saleen S7.
    i know but all a noble is, is a TT focus engine,lol

    but saleen is deff super car

    super car can not be a mass produced car,thats what ruls out corvettes

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    Quote Originally Posted by HypnoToad
    super car can not be a mass produced car
    Says who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ran
    Says who?
    says me honkie

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    Quote Originally Posted by HypnoToad
    the pnly really sporty FWD cars i can think of is Celicas
    FWD 3000gt's? i think they are pretty sporty...heavy, but still sporty.

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