Do people still say SIKE!?
Do people still say SIKE!?
SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!
lol,id hate to see insurance on a VR-4 for 16 year old...might as well pay little more and get a Z06,lol
i actually only pay 60 monthly, its registered under my fathers name. hes been driving for 53 years and has never been in a accident his insurance is cheap as hell.Originally Posted by HypnoToad
@stealthrt
i knew they were smaller man, thats why i asked how do you determine the size of the injectors...
You are the a retard. Recipe for 800whp:
1) Convert to RWD
2) Drop in LS1 with a Supercharger and Nitrous
3) Drive off a Cliff, removing yourself from the gene pool
--RIP Leisa. Forever In Our Hearts--
--Val for President 1979-2007--
--RIP Val, You will be missed--
Your dad is almost 70?!
--RIP Leisa. Forever In Our Hearts--
--Val for President 1979-2007--
if id get a manual vr-4 later on..way later on i had made this list.
-Brake Kit 3S TT AWD 14in Kit
-Forged rods
-Forged pistons
-Injectors 750cc ( i dont know what size to get.)
- Blow Off Valve
-Clutch Stage 3
-Dual pass Radiator + Flexalite Fans Black
-Highflow catalyst
- Fuel Pump
-3SX Fuel Kit
-Crank Pulley 3SX Underdrive
-Cam Gears
-NGK Copper Plugs
-Iridium spark plugs
-10mm plug wires
-Head Gasket 92mm
i know theres probally a lot missing, but thats what i had under my bookmark folder a few weeks ago if i ever got a manual vr-4 in the way distant future.
72 now actually lol, hes a good dad though. Hes calm and stuff, unlike some of my friends dads whom are in their 30s and are still acting like kids them selfs you know. good driver even though he drives like a psycho but i guess i cant say anything with a record like that.Your dad is almost 70?!
So your dad is 72 and you are 16? WTF
--RIP Leisa. Forever In Our Hearts--
--Val for President 1979-2007--
yep had me at 56 lol , ah enought of that man! lol.
how do u determine ur injector size needs?
You don't own a VR-4..................
How do you think you can determine what size injector to get when you dont even have a HP goal, and how can you make a HP goal without a car goal and a BUDGET.
So, do you want Copper plugs or Iridium plugs?!
what is a catalyst?
why is it you think you will need a larger radiator when you dont know what turbos you will have or where they will be placed?
why do you have cam gears, but not a fuel/spark managment system that will allow you to electronically adjust timing?
92mm Headgasket? WTF? does this mean you plan to run OVERSIZED pistons? otherwise, whats wrong with the stock headgasket?
Are you going to upgrade to a 4-bolt block, or run a forged crank with those forged pistons/rods?
blow of valve, i was under the impression VR-4's came with those stock?
What exactly entails a "fuel kit?"
Why is it exactly you think an Underdrive pulley will help you on a high HP application, do you not like the idea of having a harmonic balancer on an engine spinning at high rpms and ALOT of power?
14" brake kit? Don't want a suspension to match? really think you will need a big brake kit on a car you dont even know its intention (street, 1/4 mile, autocross, road course)
ANSWER EVERY ONE OF THESE QUESTIONS and come up with a BUDGET and a car GOAL (what type of track, what type of times) and then I will be glad to help you.
YES, THIS MEANS RESEARCH!!!!!!
Here is a good starting point.
http://www.3si.org/forum/showpost.ph...39&postcount=1
high flow catalyst
close thread
this thread is getting out of hand, and is obviously a joke
thanks like crazy man.
Just run a direct port nitrous set up, like a 500 shot. Make sure you get some videos.
-Iridium plugs.
-high flow catalyst converter.
-radiator upgrade is only a inch wider then stock but higher flow.
-I did had selected a fuel spark system i guess i didnt put it
MSD DIS-4 HO High Output Ignition Amplifier
-I haven't decided if to bore out to 3.15l (94mm) and 92mm is the stock size
-goin to run a genII forged crank.
-Stock vr-4 blow off valve has a 30psi limit and i dought i would go over that much boost but if i did..
-Fuel Kit at 3sx store is made of:
high flow fuel filter kit with lines going up to the front fail, fuel rail loop kit from front rail to back rail, and FPR kit with gauge to manage fuel pressure
-actually, its a aluminum crank pulley
and it weights 1 pound 11 ounces stock pulley is around 7 pounds.
- a 14'' brake kit, i would like to be safe, if not that just get slotted rotors.
- plan to use actually full intention is just fast accelaretion from a red light at mid rpm band launch.
-budget if done in two years from now, probally 12k max.
so my engines blows right open? lol no thanks.
you didn't answer ALOT of my questions, or see any of my concerns with buying things you dont need/want.
12k will not get you past 500hp reliably, and that means doing your own work, which im sorry to say, you dont seem like you could do.
i dont even have to pass that much 400hp is the new goal. i did anwser most of them man...
but ill keep researching i know i gotta long way to go just needed to some lead into the right direction.
I just figured he should start by trying to make a decent amount of power at the wheels before he tried to go big.you mean 200.
lol SL's are incredibly heavy and slow. They can get dusted by stock civics.
This will get you to 450hp in under 1000$
just get a turbonator (35% gain)
new spark plugs
VAFC II (to tune it)
DSM 300CC injectors (for superior fuel flow)
Z32 MAF
CRX Throttle Body
Profec- B controller
and some tuning
HAHAHAHA, classic
yea, and you obviously put alot of research into each and every question huh? If you put that much thought into anything you do with your car, it wont last a week.
Iridium plugs, do you even know the difference between these and coppers? what heat range do you plan on running, resisted, or non-resisted?
catalyst converter? it that located next to the flux capacitor? CATALYTIC CONVERTOR
radiator upgrade? an inch WIDER? how would that help? I think you mean THICKER. why do you think you will need these or thin/high flow fans? do you know the efficiency of the stock radiator?
Why do you think the stock coil pack is so bad? where do you find these 10mm MSD wires to go with that ingnition?
really think the stock BOV can handle over 14 psi? sadly mistake if so..
Im not even going to go into the rest of it. good luck?
LoL @ the whole thread.
ghetto guy... Just be happy with what you have, and read. You aren't going to do anything as it is right now, becuase I don't think you even have the basic understanding of what makes more power. Secondly, I don't think you have even the most basic knowledge of how motors work in general.
Join 3SI.. And just read for about 6 months. Anything you don't pick up on by then, you can ask questions. But ask them in well though out, complete sentences, or you will get flamed. Even the most simple question will get a good answer if you are proper in the way you ask. "howz can I make teh 800hp yo?" isn't it.
Tyler
Just maintain your 3kgt for a year, and let us know where your at.
And Drive it hard everyday.
Ps: do you have any pics of your car?
yah i know hell fire,ur right i should be happy with what i go, hell im proud of not driving a hand down from my parents.. for now its more than enought and if i were to spend 12k in two years why not get a new car likea 80s corvette or sum nice classic car.
mrt0mjones yah man i got sum pics of it
1994 300gt sl.
You know, I love my car, and all 3000gt's/stealth's.. but DO NOT compare our cars to a corvette as a CLASSIC car..
want to compare performance, etc.. fine (not your car but a vr4)
BUT, you think a 3/s is a collectors car? WOW
Just wait until your dad passes and use inheritance money to take your car to a shop and have them do all the work...
That sounds like a smart thing to do.
You're 16 and you want a 400whp car, RIP. Just add an exhaust system and air intake on that car, then just learn how to drive for the next 2 years.
2006 Evo IX - Bolt ons
i seriously dont know if you still have a 7th graders reading skills but i said
" yah i know hell fire,ur right i should be happy with what i go, hell im proud of not driving a hand down from my parents.. for now its more than enought and if i were to spend 12k in two years why not get a new car like a 80s corvette or sum nice classic car."
you cant read.
apparently not, probably because I stoped trying to read thoroughly through your useless babbling a while ago.
getto, that car looks nice bro. You just need to know how to approach a forum like this where you will get roasted for any given comment.
LOL you sir are a complete dumbass. You never even been above 70 which just shows you cant drive a car, dont know shit about cars. So are you gonna put iridium plugs and copper plugs in your car? LOL and a 92mm head gasket? LOL you dont even know what parts to put in your car to even make power lol
LOL he needs to stay in school to learn how to type
i think you should start off by getting the TORNADO intake thing
Imma put one in your charge pipe tomorrow. one in each end of your intercooler.
why are you guys ruining his dreams
by the way the mod list i gave is good, tried, and proven, I have a few friends in Jersey with that setup all making 450whp or more.
The iridium plugs are nice and the copper plugs are good too, just put all the front side plugs as iridium and put copper plugs in the rear side. Gap the rear plugs to 5.0mm, which leaves perfect spark.
With that given your power band will launch crazy at mid RPM's (ideal for light to light racing) and you can just get a rear differential and it bolts right on, you don't even need axles, just the rear diff and it swaps over the AWD setup from the VR-4 ... The transmission in the SL is actually stronger than the VR-4 Tranny so it'd be a good hybrid.
Get intake/exhaust and the VAFC II, and 300cc injectors are not bad given the car is boosted and the air/fuel mixture needs to be tweaked, its ideal, 750cc is too big and will flood the engine out at anything higher than 7psi. You do not want this. Smaller, higher duty cycle injectors (~140%) will throw way more fuel and have a higher refresh rate 1080P @ 120hz. Get a turbonator or an electric supercharger off of ebay (they are relatively cheap and give great gains) http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Elect...spagenameZWDVW
with that given your stock car will be pushing about 300-350whp, given on amount of voltage, therefore boost
DO all of the other mods I listed and you'd have one sickk reliable beast for cheap (as long as everything is done right)
Z32 MAF is crucial to keep your oil pressure at absolute minimum to keep turbulence and boost spikes down, it acts as a velocity stack inside the exhaust camshaft.
so yeah this list has been tried and proven many times. Try it out
*tsk*tsk RG.lol...
truthfully the best thing you can do right now is just do *real* research on your car.. buy books, go online stuff like that for a while. there is so much that u still need to learn. that realistically even if u pushed your car over 300hp you still wouldnt have the knowledge on how to drive it properly.. keep the car stock for a while just do the routine maintenance on it to keep it running good. and drive it drive it everyday as much as you can. learn your cars in and outs first then worry about uprading it or getting better performance out of it. you say you havent even been over 70 so why would you want 400hp what woulkd you do with it once you get to 70? theres no reason to go that big yet...also dont listen to your freinds advice.learn on your own and do lots of reading....
I dunno, randomguy seems to be on the right track............
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