Selling the Z for an MKIII Supra

[Z32redondo]

Well I want more power and the MKIII being one of my favorite cars I figure why not make a change. Any thoughts on this peoples? BTW I would be getting a 5 speed, turbo, targa top. And whenever I think I need more power after that I can always swap for a twin turbo 1JZ engine. So what do you think, should I or no? And if your wondering why I just dont buy a twin turbo engine for the 300zx. I dont have 8 grand for Z1 to swap the engine for me, as well as around 5-6 grand for someone else to do it. With this way I would basically break even and use the money from the z for the supra, I also may have some extra for some upgrades...Thoughts?

[§treet_§peed]

2jz ftw

[xLSTONEx]

2jz ftw

If only they made them in MK3s you dumbass.

[R3RUN]

If only they made them in MK3s you dumbass.

Check yo pm's mang!


Oh, and go for the supra if its in good condition.

[imbosile]

If only they made them in MK3s you dumbass.

Well they're being swapped into anything and everything nowadays, so it's not impossible. Plus I'm sure it's been done thousands of times already.

[§treet_§peed]

If only they made them in MK3s you dumbass.

wow you don't say... but he's talking about swaping.. read before trying to make a smart ass comment

[Z32redondo]

wow you don't say... but he's talking about swaping.. read before trying to make a smart ass comment

I said 1JZ because they made MKIII's with them so it would basically be a slip right in type of deal (discarding ecu, wiring harness, ETC.)...but ya 2JZ FTMFW...if I had the money

[§treet_§peed]

I said 1JZ because they made MKIII's with them so it would basically be a slip right in type of deal (discarding ecu, wiring harness, ETC.)...but ya 2JZ FTMFW...if I had the money

lol that's what i was saying but dude buddy apparently didn't read your post correctly.. good point. but i don't think it would cost that much more. but it would be better than just a 1jz... remember you would have 2 jay z's under your hood

[Z32redondo]

lol that's what i was saying but dude buddy apparently didn't read your post correctly.. good point. but i don't think it would cost that much more. but it would be better than just a 1jz... remember you would have 2 jay z's under your hood

Still has a good point that they did make them in MKIII's

Back to the topic though, any thoughts on this? And dont go out there saying "well if you just want power why not buy an sr'ed 240" or some BS like that I know what im wanting already just would like some opinions before I go through with it.

[xLSTONEx]

Well I want more power and the MKIII being one of my favorite cars I figure why not make a change. Any thoughts on this peoples? BTW I would be getting a 5 speed, turbo, targa top. And whenever I think I need more power after that I can always swap for a twin turbo 1JZ engine. So what do you think, should I or no? And if your wondering why I just dont buy a twin turbo engine for the 300zx. I dont have 8 grand for Z1 to swap the engine for me, as well as around 5-6 grand for someone else to do it. With this way I would basically break even and use the money from the z for the supra, I also may have some extra for some upgrades...Thoughts?

dumbass

[SampaGuy]

7mgte ftw

[Z32redondo]

dumbass

Explain???

[§treet_§peed]

dumbass

o my gay i know he said that.. i was just saying 1Jz because of the potential.... and yeah i know thst they didn't come in MK3's

[§treet_§peed]

7mgte ftw

and that would be a pos motor from what i have heard

[SampaGuy]

Explain???

7mgte > 1jz. thats what he meant.

[R3RUN]

Didnt think they made a twin turbo 1jz????

[§treet_§peed]

7mgte > 1jz. thats what he meant.

lol

[§treet_§peed]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_JZ_engine

[Z32redondo]

Didnt think they made a twin turbo 1jz????

JDM TyTe version of what we got...was going to buy a 1JZ twin turbo RHD MKIII from this guy in canada but wouldnt pass emissions and all that customs BS to make it into the US so ya...

[§treet_§peed]

all you need to know

[R3RUN]

Ah, cool. Learn something new everyday.

[xLSTONEx]

Explain???

not you

[§treet_§peed]

http://www.toyota-supra.info/supra/7...gte_vs_1jz.php

[Z32redondo]

not you

Thats what I was thinking then later realized.

[PSINXS]

mk3 is a pig.

ah well

[CSquared]

and that would be a pos motor from what i have heard

Race me and find out... People talk a ton of shit about the 7m but when properly maintained it's reliable and responsive to modification. The stock headgasket will hold up until around 16lbs of boost but if you replace that with a metal unit, you should have no problems whatsoever. The bottom end is said to handle about 500hp reliably and there are a ton of guys on 7mpower.com to verify that.

One thing that annoys me... If you don't have any personal experience with the car, how the hell can you pass judgement? That'd be like me saying the d16 is inferior to the k20... I know nothing about either of those motors.

Sorry to lash out at you emo but don't talk shit about my girl.

Didnt think they made a twin turbo 1jz????

1j only came twin turbo... In the supras at least.

[RandomGuy]

anyways to sum this thread up

MK3's suck

MK2's own

[CSquared]

anyways to sum this thread up

MK3's suck

MK2's own

Which is why i own one of each

I saw your post on celicasupra.com btw... looking for wheels or whatever.

[§treet_§peed]

Race me and find out... People talk a ton of shit about the 7m but when properly maintained it's reliable and responsive to modification. The stock headgasket will hold up until around 16lbs of boost but if you replace that with a metal unit, you should have no problems whatsoever. The bottom end is said to handle about 500hp reliably and there are a ton of guys on 7mpower.com to verify that.

One thing that annoys me... If you don't have any personal experience with the car, how the hell can you pass judgement? That'd be like me saying the d16 is inferior to the k20... I know nothing about either of those motors.

Sorry to lash out at you emo but don't talk shit about my girl.



1j only came twin turbo... In the supras at least.

see i didn't know i have only heard... i didn't say they suck i just stated what i heard... btw did you get the link i sent you?

[§treet_§peed]

and btw i'm not emo

[§treet_§peed]

Besides caling me Emo is like saying yousef loves white people and the LNC

[CSquared]

Well I want more power and the MKIII being one of my favorite cars I figure why not make a change. Any thoughts on this peoples? BTW I would be getting a 5 speed, turbo, targa top. And whenever I think I need more power after that I can always swap for a twin turbo 1JZ engine. So what do you think, should I or no? And if your wondering why I just dont buy a twin turbo engine for the 300zx. I dont have 8 grand for Z1 to swap the engine for me, as well as around 5-6 grand for someone else to do it. With this way I would basically break even and use the money from the z for the supra, I also may have some extra for some upgrades...Thoughts?

This is the way I look at it... If you are going to buy an mk3 turbo supra... The 7MGTE is included in that price for free. If you want a 1j, you are going to spend at least another 1000 on the motor, then at least a few more hundred on the install above that. For that money, you have a motor that could have had the shit kicked out of it for the last 15 years. Instead of investing 1500 into a 1j, you can rebuild the stock 7m to stock spec or above. At least then you know that rebuilt 7m is going to be a reliable motor.

Then... Since I am being awefully nice on the prices, the rest of that money can be placed into performance modification on the 7m. Yes you have more initial power with the 1j, but try to find replacement parts and price out some of the more rare aftermarket shit. Hold you jaw because it might hit the floor. Better or not, I firmly believe that you should stick with motors that were sold in the united states. At least then there is a surplus of stock and aftermarket parts.

Moral of the story... Is the 1J jdm tyte really worth all that extra time, money, and effort when you have a stock motor completely capable of producing shit loads of power? Treat her right and she will do the same for you.

p.s. Just a heads up... If you do plan on going 1j... i believe the 1j only fits the 90-92 crossmember so you will have to source one of those out if you get 86-89.


p.s.s. WWW.7MPOWER.COM <----- GO THERE.

[CSquared]

see i didn't know i have only heard... i didn't say they suck i just stated what i heard... btw did you get the link i sent you?

I'm not on aim if that's where you sent it. My comp has been all fucked up with IA for some reason so i am using the "family" computer.

Besides caling me Emo is like saying yousef loves white people and the LNC

Ha lncftmfw

[BlkCD5]

If you do get a Mk3, keep the 7M. The 1jz is a direct swap, but I heard the wiring harness and electrical is a bitch to hook up. With the potential 1jz swap money, you can have a decently built 7M. Also take into consideration about the parts issue & mechanical experience. I'm not too sure how many people actually know how to work on 1jz's.

[Vteckidd]

no offense but your trading one gigantic turd for another hunk of shit.

300zx FTL
MKIII Supras FTL (unless its boosted1JZs)

both are heavy as shit, old as shit, and im convinced MKIIIs are cursed

1JZ=ovverated unless its a built motor
7MGTE=PIECE OF SHIT except for the tranny
2JZ=baller status

[CSquared]

mk3 is a pig.

ah well

Yeah I can't deny that. Toyota created the car to be luxury/sport/touring hybrid and it def lives up to that as far as I'm concerned. Even if the stock driver seat is 100+ lbs with rails, it's comfortable as hell.

I'm going to be doing a lot over the next few years to address that. I've dropped about 120 lbs already from the car and the only thing removed from the interior was the back seat (which is 49-50 lbs with all of the accessories).

[Vteckidd]

This is the way I look at it... If you are going to buy an mk3 turbo supra... The 7MGTE is included in that price for free. If you want a 1j, you are going to spend at least another 1000 on the motor, then at least a few more hundred on the install above that. For that money, you have a motor that could have had the shit kicked out of it for the last 15 years. Instead of investing 1500 into a 1j, you can rebuild the stock 7m to stock spec or above. At least then you know that rebuilt 7m is going to be a reliable motor.

Then... Since I am being awefully nice on the prices, the rest of that money can be placed into performance modification on the 7m. Yes you have more initial power with the 1j, but try to find replacement parts and price out some of the more rare aftermarket shit. Hold you jaw because it might hit the floor. Better or not, I firmly believe that you should stick with motors that were sold in the united states. At least then there is a surplus of stock and aftermarket parts.

Moral of the story... Is the 1J jdm tyte really worth all that extra time, money, and effort when you have a stock motor completely capable of producing shit loads of power? Treat her right and she will do the same for you.

p.s. Just a heads up... If you do plan on going 1j... i believe the 1j only fits the 90-92 crossmember so you will have to source one of those out if you get 86-89.


p.s.s. WWW.7MPOWER.COM <----- GO THERE.

you can buy the weld on tabs for the PRE 90 crossmember for $150

who cares about 500whp in a MKIII with ANY MOTOR, they weigh a billion pounds, you would need to make 800whp to runs 12s

[CSquared]

both are heavy as shit, old as shit, and im convinced MKIIIs are cursed

Seriously... There is this one dude... EVERY time we hang out my car breaks down. The thing is completely fucking reliable outside of that so I am honestly afraid to hang out with him.

[RandomGuy]

Which is why i own one of each

I saw your post on celicasupra.com btw... looking for wheels or whatever.

werd? you saw it?

i got some P-types a few weeks ago

[Vteckidd]

i mean i love the way they look, but i swear, boosted1jz i dont think has had his RUN in the last 3 years, everyone we come across has some kind of wiring gremlin, 2JZ turbos explode 20 miles down the road, and more.