Turbo d15b7

[Vteckidd]

im sorry they made only 460whp

[B18c1Turboed]

If you build the car yourself there is noway it will cost anywhere near 15k. I am assuming you have the motor already and dont need too buy them.

YOu can price everything out
GE sleeves are 750.00 plus shipping 100.00 thru www.camp1320.com
Pistons range 450-500 Cp but you can get Je for like 300
Eagle Rods are 280.00
Headgasket 90.00
ARP headstuds 100.00
Oil pump@ water pump 160.00
timing belt 50.00
That bottom ENd 1890

Ok now the head
Supertech Valves,springs @ retainers 550.00
Labor installing them going 1mm over 400
Intake manifold 280.00
total 1230

Now as far as the turbo kit it just depends on how crazy you wanna go,
Usally we can pieces a whole turbo kit toghter for 2500-3000 that includes hondata,it just really depends how crazy you wanna go with that.

Not all head need to be port and polished, altough i dont know much about D series i know B series will hold out just fine. And if you look at the full race car, the built motor that did 460 blew up the night before the race and they installed a stock motor, so when he was on pinks that was on a stock D series motor, not the built one!

And if you feel like spending 15k building your car let me know ill sell u my whole car for 18,500 and it has everything you can dream of!



a special on h-t
Street Power Kit(Eagle): Turbo/All Motor
- For the budget turbo build. Used in daily driven and competition race cars. Proven in many setups 300-600hp.
- Arias Piston sets are complete with pistons, rings, locks and wrist pins.
- Eagle Connecting Rods with 3/8 ARP rod bolts.
- Darton MID Sleeve Kit
- Retail $1600.00 - $1700
Kit price $1280.00 for D-series

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread/1570358

[Vteckidd]

If you build the car yourself there is noway it will cost anywhere near 15k. I am assuming you have the motor already and dont need too buy them.

YOu can price everything out
GE sleeves are 750.00 plus shipping 100.00 thru www.camp1320.com
Pistons range 450-500 Cp but you can get Je for like 300
Eagle Rods are 280.00
Headgasket 90.00
ARP headstuds 100.00
Oil pump@ water pump 160.00
timing belt 50.00
That bottom ENd 1890

Ok now the head
Supertech Valves,springs @ retainers 550.00
Labor installing them going 1mm over 400
Intake manifold 280.00
total 1230

Now as far as the turbo kit it just depends on how crazy you wanna go,
Usally we can pieces a whole turbo kit toghter for 2500-3000 that includes hondata,it just really depends how crazy you wanna go with that.

Not all head need to be port and polished, altough i dont know much about D series i know B series will hold out just fine. And if you look at the full race car, the built motor that did 460 blew up the night before the race and they installed a stock motor, so when he was on pinks that was on a stock D series motor, not the built one!

And if you feel like spending 15k building your car let me know ill sell u my whole car for 18,500 and it has everything you can dream of!

1) if he doesnt know what a FMIC is, then i highly doubt hes capable of building this kind of motor

2) YOur pricing is kind of off
GE sleeves are 750.00 plus shipping 100.00 thru
thats without machine work, if you plan on not honing, boring, balancing thats stupid. budget $500 for GOOD machine work.

Pistons range 450-500 Cp but you can get Je for like 300
JEs are $300 WITHOUT RINGS

Eagle Rods are 280.00
thats about right if you have a hook up

Headgasket 90.00
right

ARP headstuds 100.00
right

Oil pump@ water pump 160.00
right

timing belt 50.00
right

You forgot bearings, lower gasket kit, water pump, tensioner, clutch unless you build motors reusing that kind of stuff

Turbo kit wise, you MIGHT be able to scrape by, but i doubt it dont you guys run $1200-1300 full race manifolds?

lets see for a 400whp D series you would need:
Tubular manifold of some sort ours run $850, others 650-1200
3in Downpipe $150-250
Wastegate $210
BOV of a name brand sort $200
RC injectors $360 for plug an play, $300 for resisitor box
FMIC $200
Piping $300 with GOOD tbolts, clamps and couplers
Crome PRO with ECU $180 or Hondata S300 $600 +ECU ($180)
Oil lines an fittings $150

That assumes you can tap an weld an oil pan, and do all the fabrication yourself.

your estimate doesnt have headwork which you have to have to make over 350whp, valvesprings, retainers, vavle job, valves, camshaft, intake manifold, etc.

Also, this guy was asking abuot STROKER kits, Custom cam, custom everything, and thats more money which you didnt address. Halfwit spent around $7000 for a built BLOCK, vtec head, new OEM parts, MSPi turbo kit with TDF manifold and on low boost he got 285whp out of it with a STOCK HEAD. We are getting springs, ret, cam for it in the next week or so, and we should be able to see around 350whp on race gas with it.

you see my point. sometimes its best not to cheap out.

[Vteckidd]

Street Power Kit(Eagle): Turbo/All Motor
- For the budget turbo build. Used in daily driven and competition race cars. Proven in many setups 300-600hp.
- Arias Piston sets are complete with pistons, rings, locks and wrist pins.
- Eagle Connecting Rods with 3/8 ARP rod bolts.
- Darton MID Sleeve Kit
- Retail $1600.00 - $1700
Kit price $1280.00 for D-series

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread/1570358

thats uninstalled. I just paid $650 to have sleeves put into a B motor, and that still doesnt have bearings, or any oem parts, head studs etc.

bet on $3000 once its all said an done

[B18c1Turboed]

thats uninstalled. I just paid $650 to have sleeves put into a B motor, and that still doesnt have bearings, or any oem parts, head studs etc.

bet on $3000 once its all said an done

I guess this is where we have to agree to disagree, because I know that it don’t take no where near the amount you have stated, but you are a shop so you have too included labor prices.

The Machine shop we use for hone, boring, and decking are blocks charge us like 120.00 I think it was, as far as balance the crank I had Laskey racing do mine and I want to say I paid 250. I can’t recall that.

Of course when using a shop you will pay more, because you have too included labor. So 15k to build and install isn’t that bad I think. But just in parts I would say to build a 400whp car it would be roughly about 8k. And that’s doing it right!!



And you cant compare are manifold to what he is trying to do, or put toghter because we go for higher HP so of course we will always pay more than others!



If you want my suggestion I would go B series, theirs a lot of people building 600hp cars on stock sleeves. For the same amount you are going to build a 400hp D series you can have a B series with a lot more HP. And parts for B series are a lot cheaper too, because they so easy to find!

[Vteckidd]

I guess this is where we have to agree to disagree, because I know that it don’t take no where near the amount you have stated, but you are a shop so you have too included labor prices.

The Machine shop we use for hone, boring, and decking are blocks charge us like 120.00 I think it was, as far as balance the crank I had Laskey racing do mine and I want to say I paid 250. I can’t recall that.

Of course when using a shop you will pay more, because you have too included labor. So 15k to build and install isn’t that bad I think. But just in parts I would say to build a 400whp car it would be roughly about 8k. And that’s doing it right!!



And you cant compare are manifold to what he is trying to do, or put toghter because we go for higher HP so of course we will always pay more than others!



If you want my suggestion I would go B series, theirs a lot of people building 600hp cars on stock sleeves. For the same amount you are going to build a 400hp D series you can have a B series with a lot more HP. And parts for B series are a lot cheaper too, because they so easy to find!

your right machine shops are different in prices. i had some quote $250, some $500 to COMPLETELY machine a motor.

the guy we use now is prob the best in the state and he aint cheap but ive had great success with him so ....

i agree, B>D in terms of that kind of power

[miro_gt]

the full-race pinks car was build cheap, with most of the parts donated or obtained for free .. The idea was that they would have a car that they could loose if it came down to it ... It did make around 460WHP as I remember. The whole story is on their website.

but I don't see why you think that the stock sleeves are not strong .. Retard the timing appropriately, and those are gonna be just fine

[Vteckidd]

the full-race pinks car was build cheap, with most of the parts donated or obtained for free .. The idea was that they would have a car that they could loose if it came down to it ... It did make around 460WHP as I remember. The whole story is on their website.

but I don't see why you think that the stock sleeves are not strong .. Retard the timing appropriately, and those are gonna be just fine

cheap for a multi million dollar company doesn not mean CHEAP for US.

for anyone else to duplicate that car, $10-15K EASY. if not more. FROM A SHOP.

Just because one dyno shows someone running 30psi, doesnt mean i would trust a sleeve all the time at that boost level.

hell B SERIES SLEEVES which are THICKER cant hold that kind of power on stock, they crack seen it happen.

we lost a D series motor at 18psi on pump, sleeve broke.

until you have tried it or done it, dont believe everything you have read or seen.

[SoLJames95]

You tell them Mike!!! Show them whos penis is bigger.Miro I know you and your home Dseries build is with the greddy setup. Your making like 164, I heard its alright. I got some bulgarian personal that says your setup is almost as cheap as your hot wheel rims.

[kain86]

first off you guys are making me out to be some kind of back woods retard that doesnt know anything about motors....yes im not to turbo knowledgable but i can build you one hell of an all motor 350ci chevy........600whp made out of 4500 yeah i know bigger displacement but larger engines aren't always the best. i bought my car for $1200 and it smokes more than me in a month i need new rings because i already changed my valve seals like the mechanic i bought it from said it would be... i could pull the engine apart but what good would that do me when im just going to do it all over again what i put forge internals. and as for me not knowing what a FMIC was... MY BAD! I also know it's going to cost me out the ass for whichever build i decide to do... but i was planning on trying to do all the work myself. and all the custom internals that i was going to have made where going to be made by a local shop that my friend works for so he was personally going to make all my parts. only thingf i had to do was find a cam and head stuff..... to think this started out as a project car now it's going to be a serious build to prove the people that say i can or am not going to be able to do it...... not bad for one of my first threads to have so many people fighting over whats right and wrong.....everyone has a different way of doing things and if someone says its not right for them doesnt mean its not right for someone else..
and like i said i have "D15B7" that i wanted 300whp out of does anyone have any suggestions on what i should do to make that and what kind of turbo setup i should use....

[kain86]

AND IM STILL LOOKING FOR A COMPLETE B18A/B SWAP FOR CHEAP....
SO I CAN BUILD BOTH IN MY SPARE TIME...

[Vteckidd]

no one is being a dick or making fun of you, but its obvious you needed help.

you list custom stroker kit when its not needed, custom this, custom that, that costs BIG MONEY.

just cause you can build a domestic motor doesnt mean shit for an import.

no one was dogging on you, but if you dont know what a FMIC is, or if you have to ask WHAT it takes to make that kind of power, you cant do it yourself.

do al ittle research and you can find what your looking for

[Vteckidd]

i said i have "D15B7" that i wanted 300whp out of does anyone have any suggestions on what i should do to make that and what kind of turbo setup i should use..

ask your friend who will be making all your CUSTOM cranks an pistons, he should know what you need

[kain86]

he doesn't like hondas he like crappy hundai.......he has a 99 tiburon i think..

[kain86]

OK im going for even less now.....250-300whp
where can i get cheap "d15b7" forged rods
and some cp or srp pistons and rings... im going to start slow and build from there cause i can't do much with crappy rods and bad piston rings... and also it would help if i listed the things i already have right....

65mm prelude throttle body
obx intake manifold
ebay 4-2-1 exhaust headers
painted valve color
H22a injectors
H22a fuel rail
gutted catalytic converter
AEM short ram intake
Fel-pro OEM valve stem seals lol.....

that's it so far....but the guy i bought the intake mani from cracked it after i gave him the money:idb: ....so it's kinda JB Welded together...
imgoing to post up a pic of my motor already.... i think it's ok LOOKING....

[miro_gt]

You tell them Mike!!! Show them whos penis is bigger.Miro I know you and your home Dseries build is with the greddy setup. Your making like 164, I heard its alright. I got some bulgarian personal that says your setup is almost as cheap as your hot wheel rims.

The car made 163WHP at 8psi falling to 7 in high RPM, with the stock cat on Shortly after, the boost went up to 9psi and the cat got gutted, and it stayed like that for one year(30K miles).... It ran very nice, and that's with the stock injectors, where it was probably making ~170WHP

but today (well yesterday, it's like 1:45am), after some tunning by me, the boost went up to 11psi, and the timing went up with 2 degrees. And it's gonna get to 12psi tomorrow When I find time, I'll put it on the dyno where I'll max it out at around 1 bar .. but I may install new MAP sensor for that.

and BTW, other than the GReddy kit, I don't have cheap stuff on my car

so who's your bulgarian personal ??

[Vteckidd]

If thats an OBX manifold, them i wonder when they started making stock honda manifolds LOL.

an since when did preludes come with 65mm throttle bodies? only honda that came with bigger than a 60 was the Integra Type-R which was a 62mm TB. never heard of a FACTORY HONDA 65mm sorry.

H22a injectors=290cc but on a stock d series makes no difference
H22a FUEL rail=same as a D series, so pointless mod

only realy mod i see is an intake and a header. thats it, all the rest is either stock or a mod that made no power.

listen man people arent going to give you all the answers everytime you change your mind. since you have joined you have made 3 threads that consist of:

1) HOw to build a 700whp B series
2) how to build a 400whp D serie
3) how to build a 250-300whp D series


see what im saying, seems you keep chaning your mind every day because you dont know what you want.

biggest waste of time is answered questions that didnt need to be asked. find out what YOU want to do FIRST, what your REALISTIC BUDGET IS, an go from there.

if you only have $3000 then ovbiously a GSR swap and a turbo kit aint happeneing.

[Vteckidd]

and like everyone has said, DONT BUILD the d15. they have much weaker cranks than the 1.6l motor.

just pick up a 1.6L block

[kain86]

the intake mani isn't the obx cause the guy cracked it, and i had the throttle body bored and wheni got it back i use my engine hone to smooth it more then polished it...
and the only reason i put the injectors and fuel rail on is cause i got a hol of some bad gas and it messed up my old ones and my friend had that pair lying around so he gave them to me.the only reason i keep changing my mind is chause everyone is telling me eaither its going to cost an arm and a leg or it's impossible........so i keep trying to find something more reasonable.

[Vteckidd]

THE WHAT IS YOUR BUDGET???

YOU have to be reasonable for US to be reasonable. you come on here asking about custom stroker kits, 700whp, you think it was gonna cost $1000?

[kain86]

im going to do it in pieces and my total budget will probably be about 8-10k...

[miro_gt]

im going to do it in pieces and my total budget will probably be about 8-10k...

you can build a fast Honda with that much

[SoLJames95]

Miguel and Joe Brutto, they said they had rode with you in it. Joe was fucking around with you.

[miro_gt]

Miguel and Joe Brutto, they said they had rode with you in it. Joe was fucking around with you.

ahahaha, I had a boost leak that day, so what they felt was just like 7psi

[Halfwit]

im going to do it in pieces and my total budget will probably be about 8-10k...

GSR TURBO.

[Halfwit]

GSR TURBO.

do a stock swap, stack more money, then do the turbo kit, drive on tha tfor a while, then go back for pistons/ rods..maybe cam ect.

[99SI]

If I had eight to ten thousand to work with I would do a K20A, good header (hytech,TDF,RMF), Skunk2 or IPS cams/valvetrain, KPRO

[Halfwit]

If I had eight to ten thousand to work with I would do a K20A, good header (hytech,TDF,RMF), Skunk2 or IPS cams/valvetrain, KPRO

better potential i nthe long run, but i went with gsr turbo because all his threads have been about turbo and LARGE HP NUMBERS...

[kain86]

well im having to pull my d15b7 apart because it took a shit....... no warning....it just started to die then a loud knocking that sounded like it was coming from the head......not sure yet....still pulling it apart...

[99SI]

Those tail lights are sick. Where did you get those from. Put up a link if you don't mind. :thumbup:

[Vteckidd]

i like the wheels personally

[kain86]

the tail lights are matrix type r bullseye carbon fiber lights i had a hook up at a local stereo shop and i paid $140.....i need a motor................................the wheels are the stock 13" steelies