Had to post this!

[Apex i ITR]

hes saying 13whp doesnt mean much when you are talking about 300-400whp NA Hondas.

Hes also saying that most dynojets dont duplicate numbers back to back accurately. Car can make 350 on 1 pull and 340 the next. Dynojets are the most inaccurate dynos out there, Load bearing are the most accurate.

Hes right

I disagree. They are industry standard and the hardest to manipulate numbers (correct me if I'm wrong). And there are more variables when dynoing on different dyno's different days. Temp, alt, etc.

Those numbers are sick for NA Honda's.

I can see someone sand bagging their quarter mile run if their main intention is street racing and winning big money.

My uncle used to street race up there (Grand Nationals). he said those boys race for pink slips as well. Y'all crazy up there.

[stretch]

I disagree. They are industry standard and the hardest to manipulate numbers (correct me if I'm wrong). And there are more variables when dynoing on different dyno's different days. Temp, alt, etc.

Those numbers are sick for NA Honda's.

I can see someone sand bagging their quarter mile run if their main intention is street racing and winning big money.

My uncle used to street race up there (Grand Nationals). he said those boys race for pink slips as well. Y'all crazy up there.

Exactly my point

[Vteckidd]

I disagree. They are industry standard and the hardest to manipulate numbers (correct me if I'm wrong). And there are more variables when dynoing on different dyno's different days. Temp, alt, etc.

Its wildly accepted in the industry that Dynojets are the WORST tuning machines you can use. Its not even in dispute. Its fact. The only reason why Dynojets are everywhere is because they are the cheapest.

The Load bearing dynoes like Forged Performance has (dyno dynamics) which run upwards of $70-100k are much more preferable. They make tuning a car much easier as you can tune individual load columns and tune for peak TQ, Dynojets you cant do that with accuracy because they are an inertial dyno.

I think stretch is saying the same thing just in a different way. 13whp matters, every whp matters. But when you get to cars making 300-400whp NA, i think the idea is that 13whp doesnt make or break a car winninig a street race?

I dont know ive never owned a car that powerful or even seen one .

[stretch]

Its wildly accepted in the industry that Dynojets are the WORST tuning machines you can use. Its not even in dispute. Its fact. The only reason why Dynojets are everywhere is because they are the cheapest.

The Load bearing dynoes like Forged Performance has (dyno dynamics) which run upwards of $70-100k are much more preferable. They make tuning a car much easier as you can tune individual load columns and tune for peak TQ, Dynojets you cant do that with accuracy because they are an inertial dyno.

I think stretch is saying the same thing just in a different way. 13whp matters, every whp matters. But when you get to cars making 300-400whp NA, i think the idea is that 13whp doesnt make or break a car winninig a street race?

I dont know ive never owned a car that powerful or even seen one .

We to be honest mike, none of the cars making 300+hp NA are street racing. At that point they say its to much to lose. Majority of the NA cars are in the 240-290hp range, and I know for a fact that at this power range on the STREET every hp counts and weight is also very important also.

[Apex i ITR]

Its wildly accepted in the industry that Dynojets are the WORST tuning machines you can use. Its not even in dispute. Its fact. The only reason why Dynojets are everywhere is because they are the cheapest.

The Load bearing dynoes like Forged Performance has (dyno dynamics) which run upwards of $70-100k are much more preferable. They make tuning a car much easier as you can tune individual load columns and tune for peak TQ, Dynojets you cant do that with accuracy because they are an inertial dyno.

I think stretch is saying the same thing just in a different way. 13whp matters, every whp matters. But when you get to cars making 300-400whp NA, i think the idea is that 13whp doesnt make or break a car winninig a street race?

I dont know ive never owned a car that powerful or even seen one .

In the Evo world they love Mustang Dyno's but get the least amount of BS numbers from Dynojets due to people messing with CF other crap to make the numbers higher then they really are.

Irrelevant really. For a N/A Honda to put down 300 anything on a Dyno Dynamics, Mustang or DJ is impressive (I know the DD and the MD read lower so 300 on it would be more on a DJ).

Stretch next time I'm in GA I'd like to come to the shop and check you guys out. Thinking about building something for my son in the next year or 2.

[stretch]

In the Evo world they love Mustang Dyno's but get the least amount of BS numbers from Dynojets due to people messing with CF other crap to make the numbers higher then they really are.

Irrelevant really. For a N/A Honda to put down 300 anything on a Dyno Dynamics, Mustang or DJ is impressive (I know the DD and the MD read lower so 300 on it would be more on a DJ).

Stretch next time I'm in GA I'd like to come to the shop and check you guys out. Thinking about building something for my son in the next year or 2.

Sure man anytime. Pm me for my number when u ready. Ur always welcome to come by