K series guys ( well mainly gregg lol)

[k_killaGSR]

Dont agree with mike. lol. K20A.ORG AND CLUBRSX.COM makes all his 2004 price quote look stupid enough as it is. lol And PLEASE dont tell h22jones that randy car runs 10.5 but get beat by other K's IN HIS CLASS running 10.2-10.3's AND STILL are able to drive LONG distances home.lol Dont worry thou, when h22jones gets these h2b's done, some of the K guys will show him whats up

Oh and keep us posted on ur new and upcoming k24/20 build in 2012

actually you are correct i over looked somethings he said. like paying 4k for a type s from hmotorsonline. why pay that when you can buy a block for 300-400 and a head for like 600-800 depending on whats done to it. shit i paid $700 for my k24a8 block with k20z3 head which included the RBC and type s wiring harness, i also just bought me a type s tranny with a polished and knife edged k24a2 crank for $1000 on k20a.org (talk about a deal). you can find alot of deals on k20a.org. theirs guys on there selling forged high compression pistons for like 350, rods for like 200, mounts for 300. like i said earlier to build a K you just have to have a little bit of patience and you'll find what you needfor the right price. ill make sure to share my build with you guys. might make a build thread. i know one thing ima have these guys at the meets lol

[Vteckidd]

actually you are correct i over looked somethings he said. like paying 4k for a type s from hmotorsonline. why pay that when you can buy a block for 300-400 and a head for like 600-800 depending on whats done to it. shit i paid $700 for my k24a8 block with k20z3 head which included the RBC and type s wiring harness, i also just bought me a type s tranny with a polished and knife edged k24a2 crank for $1000 on k20a.org (talk about a deal). you can find alot of deals on k20a.org. theirs guys on there selling forged high compression pistons for like 350, rods for like 200, mounts for 300. like i said earlier to build a K you just have to have a little bit of patience and you'll find what you needfor the right price. ill make sure to share my build with you guys. might make a build thread. i know one thing ima have these guys at the meets lol

you guys obviously havent built enough to realize there is more to a motor than a block head and tranny. Also i dont know where you are buying complete rotating assemblies like a K20A2 for $300-400. Maybe with 150k miles. A VTEC K 20 head goes for $600 all day and more. So congrats you found a DEAL, but its not something you can recommend to a CUSTOMER. very few people are going to trust buying X block with X head with X tranny from some random guys on clubrsx or k20a.org. Even then youre missing a ton of stuff

What about:

flywheel
flywheel bolts
starter
starter bolts
alternator
clutch assembly
shifter cables
clips
bushings
wiring harness
fuel rail
injectors
tb
tps
valve cover
valve cover hardware
timing chain
timing chain sprockets, guides, cover
oil pan
oil pan hardware
tranny bolts
thermostat
thermostat housing
coolant temp sensor
VSS
oil pressure sensor
ECU
wiring harness
knock sensor
idler pulley
intake manifold
IAC
IAT



So why you guys can claim you can buy a block for $400-500 and a head for $600-800, you are overlooking a TON OF PARTS that come with a complete swap. Most people arent going to sit there and hunt down all that stuff. They would rather buy it all complete because at the end of the day you can buy a full swap for $4000, or you can buy a block, head, headgasket, pay someone to put the motor together, only to figure out your missing $500-1000 more in parts, etc etc etc etc

Ask james which is easier to do. Or how many times someone says "i got everything" and THEY DONT.

If you guys are somehow able to beat what everyone else is paying, congrats. youre still in the minority. Ive bought PLENTY of blocks, heads etc that were missing parts. I refuse to believe you can buy a K20A2 swap for $1500 with truly everything you need. I have bought a K20A2 swap before for $2000, doesnt mean every swap is $2000.

[Moseley]

What about:

flywheel
flywheel bolts
starter
starter bolts
alternator
clutch assembly
shifter cables
clips
bushings
wiring harness
fuel rail
injectors
tb
tps
valve cover
valve cover hardware
timing chain
timing chain sprockets, guides, cover
oil pan
oil pan hardware
tranny bolts
thermostat
thermostat housing
coolant temp sensor
VSS
oil pressure sensor
ECU
wiring harness
knock sensor
idler pulley
intake manifold
IAC
IAT

[Vteckidd]

gregg prob got all that for free from his Fiance too

[k_killaGSR]

you guys obviously havent built enough to realize there is more to a motor than a block head and tranny.

What about:

flywheel
flywheel bolts
starter
starter bolts
alternator
clutch assembly
shifter cables
clips
bushings
wiring harness
fuel rail
injectors
tb
tps
valve cover
valve cover hardware
timing chain
timing chain sprockets, guides, cover
oil pan
oil pan hardware
tranny bolts
thermostat
thermostat housing
coolant temp sensor
VSS
oil pressure sensor
ECU
wiring harness
knock sensor
idler pulley
intake manifold
IAC
IAT



So why you guys can claim you can buy a block for $400-500 and a head for $600-800, you are overlooking a TON OF PARTS that come with a complete swap. Most people arent going to sit there and hunt down all that stuff. They would rather buy it all complete because at the end of the day you can buy a full swap for $4000, or you can buy a block, head, headgasket, pay someone to put the motor together, only to figure out your missing $500-1000 more in parts, etc etc etc etc

Ask james which is easier to do. Or how many times someone says "i got everything" and THEY DONT.

If you guys are somehow able to beat what everyone else is paying, congrats. youre still in the minority. Ive bought PLENTY of blocks, heads etc that were missing parts. I refuse to believe you can buy a K20A2 swap for $1500 with truly everything you need. I have bought a K20A2 swap before for $2000, doesnt mean every swap is $2000.

most of the stuff you listed like iat, iac, intake manifld, valve cover, all sensors for the block and head,tranny bolts, oil pan, TB with all sensors including tps, stock injectors, timing chain with guides, sprockets and timing chain cover, coil packs comes with it. i just didnt think i had to list every little thing that came with it because most of this stuff is supposed to come with a motor. stuff like fly wheel ,clutch i dont car that it didnt come with it because it would get switched out anyways, same thing with fuel rail. starters and alternators go for cheap on k20a.org. you mentioned earlier something about getting lucky and not getting scammed well thats why you do your research on someone before you purchase from them. look up there prev transactions, see what people say about the person. only buy from a reputable seller and use paypal if you dont get what you paid for then file a complaint to get your money back. you are correct just because someone buys a motor for 2000 that doesnt mean every swap is going for 2000 but that goes back to what i stated you just gotta have patience when building a K. you have to wait for the right part to come around for the right price. but im done with this convo this thing had like 7 pgs on the first day lol it can go on for YEARS. props to the OP for entertaining us

[112480]

most of the stuff you listed like iat, iac, intake manifld, valve cover, all sensors for the block and head,tranny bolts, oil pan, TB with all sensors including tps, stock injectors, timing chain with guides, sprockets and timing chain cover, coil packs comes with it. i just didnt think i had to list every little thing that came with it because most of this stuff is supposed to come with a motor.

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh......................... dont tell vteckidd that either...........shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh......... ......................... he's doing a good job by himself of making a fool of himself so , shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh........

[112480]

actually you are correct i over looked somethings he said. like paying 4k for a type s from hmotorsonline. why pay that when you can buy a block for 300-400 and a head for like 600-800 depending on whats done to it. shit i paid $700 for my k24a8 block with k20z3 head which included the RBC and type s wiring harness, i also just bought me a type s tranny with a polished and knife edged k24a2 crank for $1000 on k20a.org (talk about a deal). you can find alot of deals on k20a.org. theirs guys on there selling forged high compression pistons for like 350, rods for like 200, mounts for 300. like i said earlier to build a K you just have to have a little bit of patience and you'll find what you needfor the right price.

shhhhhhhh......dont tell vteckidd that, cause he'll call bullshit on you ESPEACIALLY if u cant provide receipts!

[Vteckidd]

shhhhhhhh......dont tell vteckidd that, cause he'll call bullshit on you ESPEACIALLY if u cant provide receipts!

you guys leave me no choice.

See i operate on FACTS. Not half truths, or so and so said, or whatever. So you should argue FACTS with FACTS. You guys dont do that.

I say "no one makes over 250whp with a B SEries" then theres a 25 page thread about how IM WRONG yet no one has proven it at all. Its very simple, post a dyno from a GA shop with a b series making 250whp? whats so hard?

You say you dont have $10,000 in your car, i say youre full of shit. You say "i dont have to prove it".

You say a K Series is cheap, i say youre wrong and post links prices, point out the gross amount of things you are forgetting. You say " i dont have to prove it" or "my fiance bought it for me".

Thats why you guys think im an asshole, is because i call you on your bullshit and it angers you because you know you cant win with someone that argues like me. Period