K series guys ( well mainly gregg lol)

[Vteckidd]

True, but you are running a gutted car. Those same people that gut them say that running a bike isn't fair, but it is an all motor 4cyl making a lot less power, but has less weight also. It's hypocritical.

thats the price of making a 4 cylinder commuter car "fast"

there is something to be said for driving a econobox CRX with a 9500RPM rev limiter, with no AC and PS. I would never drive it everyday, but its a totally different experience.

Ill say this, i drove my buddies Cammed/exhaust/headers GTO the other day. 2006 6.0L. The TQ was awesome, the car, was pile of garbage. The shifter was horrible, the trans felt sloppy, the interior was disgusting. its just so marginal in every sense of the word.

my 2005 TL makes 50% the power, but is much more "fun" to drive than his pig.

So if your argument is that it costs less to go faster with a car that already has most likely double or triple the engine size, AND is RWD, then i think almost everyone will agree with you. But not everyone wants to drive 80s Mustangs either (i totally would )

If your only goal is to go FAST, why choose a honda EVER? But thats not most peoples goal. Most people that own hondas like their styling, price, appeal, gas mileage, and are conforming to the tuner crowd. So you work with whatcha got

[David88vert]

there is something to be said for driving a econobox CRX with a 9500RPM rev limiter, with no AC and PS. I would never drive it everyday, but its a totally different experience.

You just made the argument for getting a bike instead.

Has the same lack of creature comforts, has the same 4cyl (but makes less power), you cut weight in the Civic to try to get down towards the weight of a bike, the bike revs higher, and the bike is more reliable, and the bike gets better gas mileage.
Take an old CRR929 - fits the above. Don't launch it at the track, shift early and smooth, and you will still run low 11s - faster than a 12.9 sec Civic by far.

[Vteckidd]

You just made the argument for getting a bike instead.

Has the same lack of creature comforts, has the same 4cyl (but makes less power), you cut weight in the Civic to try to get down towards the weight of a bike, the bike revs higher, and the bike is more reliable, and the bike gets better gas mileage.
Take an old CRR929 - fits the above. Don't launch it at the track, shift early and smooth, and you will still run low 11s - faster than a 12.9 sec Civic by far.

youre not arguing with me haha


but you cant compare a bike to a car. I love my 600 GSXR, fastest thing ive ever owned