Wish tony wouldnt have broke so they couldve finished the best 3 out of 5, but i guess it wouldnt have mattered, miller broke also.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1civic
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Wish tony wouldnt have broke so they couldve finished the best 3 out of 5, but i guess it wouldnt have mattered, miller broke also.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1civic
Supercharger way simpler, no turbo lag, easier to install
Stock itr motor +5 psi =240/160 and it cost me $1000 for the supercharger
miller has ran 8.30's tonys gotta catch up
Here is food for thought since gregg wants to keep bragging with out bragging lol.
If a stock h22 with bolt ons makes 210hp with a h2b setup and a stock h series makes 185hp with a h tranny what would a 252hp h series motor make bolted to a b series tranny ? Ill be willing to bet i could bolt a b16 tranny to the 252hp motor in the si hatch with a 3 inch exhaust and hit well above 260 (thats being moddest )
Now food for though gregg (ince you keep getting your bragg on lol ) . If we built that motor with kleft over shit i would be real curious to see what the next one bolted to a b16 with a 4.9 final drive will Do. I may have to take the 4.9 out but ill leave it in there why its on the dyno just for you gregg :)
Bobby want to put the 252hp h series in your 1,600 pound ef hatch lol? I have a extra sleeved block hell we might build another motor for the si hatch lol then auction the old one off. Like mike said build a 250 plus hp b series and see how long it stays together lol. This h series has been running for 3 years as a dd and beat on at the track when we get a chance . Yes people are running tens witht he same hp we are making . Personaly i would rather make more hp then ride around in a 1,600 pound shit box lol (just my prefrence). Im glad so much attention is on the all motor scene lol.
Bobby ill be glad to give you a reason to retire that b series. I can tell by reading threads you race a tranny race . By saying that im not hating im just saying you learned the art of what a lower diff would do for you along time ago and that comes in real handy . The guy that was questioning how much hp i was making must have never looked at a h22 tranny graph and seen the 4.2 final and the longn as gears lol. That plus a 2,500 pound car will kill any 252 hp motor lol. I addressed that to bobby because i know he knows what a 4.2 final is and im sure the rest of you do to. Hell i could put a stock motor in the si hatch and my dad would be happy and we could build a car to race the 252 hp motor but why when you got the knowledge and parts to build a 300hp motor lol.
Ive done alot of testing and research on h22 to be able to do what i do with them . Kinda like bobby says if he compares his car to cars in georgia there isnt much to compare to. When i decided to build my set up all this hype wasnt going on and hell i didnt even know gregg,bobby,or mosely now me and mike has been friends for years. So were a 252hp h series is respectable in georgia its not shit on the west coast. Even on the west coast i have only seen a hand full of 300hp motors and thats why 300hp was my goal . If we had the discussions on honda tech that we have on here they would laugh us off there. Im not saying there so much smarter lol just that there actually is a few realy fast cars on there . I have also talked to several of them guys and half of them dont know shit besides they bought a nice set up lol .
I just like to know why what ever does what ever and if i can get that figured out then i can do anything lol. Ive just always been like that not scared to dive head first into anything lol. If i take apart i can out it back together and probabky pout it back together if i dont take it apart . i have also noticed in order to be competative you need to atleast be able to data log and touch up your tunes or have a real close friend that does. well thats my next agenda if i have to buy a dyno so be it its something i want to learn how to do.
I just think it's a waste of money. When you can double your hp with boost alone. And I did skim thru the 15 boring pages. It I guess it whatever floats your boat. I would take you up on your offer but low boost alone I'm well over 300Quote:
Originally Posted by h22 jones
Boost vs all motor, from a dig, street tires, boost loses easily, a boost car is only worth it if u have sum big ass radials and have suspension setup right do dig runs on the street. Now at the track boost cars are fastest on slicks. As many people stated above, HP isn't everything. From a dig anyways.
Yes I'm at a loss with these turbo cars running slow times.. NA cars run 10.6 now in street trim, race cars run 9's now NA.. Come on turbo people where you been? LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by h22 jones
Whats your best time at the track and how much hp? Also what did your set up cosy you? Im running low 12s for the last three years with out turning a wrench for around 5,000 in the whole car . Thats my only point man . If i had a unlimited budget sure why not make 800hp and blow shit up all the time . I just dont or choose not to spend that on my hondas ( i cant say i dont have it because to many people no me on hear lol ).Quote:
Originally Posted by B18c1Turboed
Dont get me wrong i love all fast hondas just didnt want to turn this into a all motor versus turbo thread lol.
turbo runs 8s lol. Big difference in 9s and 8s lol but yea i know what you mean . Ive always been one that it doesnt matter what you have make it run good for what it is.
Joey 11.1 with 400hp good
&896 10.8 with 600hp not good lol
see my point . Even myself the 252hp motor will nevr impress anybody in the body the its in with the trany its hooked to. good thing it wasnt meant to lol.
They know better, any turbo cars come in here and I'll call them out to the street for any amount!! Turbo cars don't worry me on the street.. muwahaha!!Quote:
Originally Posted by h22 jones
Joey figure something out on the p2 so ill know what to do lol.
whatch out hard core street racers only race slicks bobby lol. You saying you canbeat the midnight auto hatch on the street ? Sorry i know everything was going so good but i had to you left yourself to open lmao.
Care to test that theory of yours? I'm on boost, and on street tires. Fron what you're saying here, it sounds like you think that you've got me covered easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by *EFilliated*
Lol i dont think he was counting on a rear wheel drive turbo car in here lol got him. Play fair lol.
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Originally Posted by 1civic
What about supercharged?
define "fair" :ninja:Quote:
Originally Posted by h22 jones
And how come you FWD guys always kick us RWD guys to the curb like that.... :no:
Hell i cant say nothing if i couldnt get traction with brand new 22-9 at the track what the hell you think im going to do on the street . The two times ive even got in the hatch on the street i either passed a sherrif running over a hundred (nemo had to point him out because i never saw him lol) or i almost got ion a fight with a guy because when i steppep in it it started pulling toward the oncoming lane and of course i didnt let out . For the record i never left my lane that guy was just a prick and i told him so lol.
I just felt bad because i can see somebody doing a drive by while my dads cruising to the shop one dau because of my wreckless driving . I promise you i try not to drive it as much as i can . It seems to last longer that way lol. Yes my dad read this foroum every night lol. He has always said ive got two gears wide open or dead stop no in between lol. He might be right .
because us front wheel drive guys have traction trouble lol . Ive alwasy been one of the best i know at getting a front wheel drive to hook on the street feathering the clutch just doing what ever its all come natural when you played alot on dirt roads growing up but still no match for rear wheel drives .
The sad part is my expidition in four low will get 90 percent of the cars on here in a eight mile on the street lol.
Tell me what we are racing and for how much.. anything can be setup within reason.. But don't bring out a trailor car to a street race, you say DR then drive it out and we can talk..Quote:
Originally Posted by David88vert
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Video is posted of the car you will race!!
One of the best dd ive ever seen was a si hatch with ac and a pro charger on it . Instant power ran 11s and real reliable . i agree over all turbos are better but for the average person that buys a turbo kit they would be happier with super charger . I can also take you for a ride in a 85 chevy truck ,tubbed, with a big block super charged ,probably over 1,200hp (never been dynoed to mu knowledge0. it gets no traction either and is very scary lol.
If you can keep the drive train together a evo is the best for street racing . Before e man decided to make over 1,000 hp his shit was king shit on the street point blank. Anybody that knows the car knows at 800hp blowing all 4 tires up at 70 mph is just fucking nasty. But you got to figure he has to have what 80,000 dollars in that car. My point has always been what can you do with a certain amiunt of money not a unlimited budget .
The last time i saw that car was about a year ago al was using my paint booth to do the wide body kit and it wasnt running right. He has enough money to get that car back right and im sure it will always be streetable lol.
Stretch has just the car for you, that is if they haven't sold it.. Perfect for AMP.. :) 300hp would be to much in the EF, the rails would need lead!!Quote:
Originally Posted by h22 jones
I'm just talking about my foxbody. Its a full weight street car with a small Vortech. Never trailered to the track. I'd be up for a run next month. I won't have a chance to get out until then.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1civic
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Originally Posted by David88vert
Hmm, so it makes 430ish? I raced my buddy from a dig and held my own.. He always made me race it cause he can't shift like I can.. Quick little car with the right tires, he had et streets!! Pretty blu foxbody hatch from woodstock/smyrna area!!
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Car sold on street car forums, it was just a 306 with heads and blower cam.. It had a small Vortech also with heavy susp work!! Car never seen a track but ran hard on the street, I think he sold it with a bent rod for cheap price.. It was electric blu I think, i almost bought it.. If only it was a coupe..LOL
Damn I remember these days, all this mustang talk got me going back in time!!...
"Get in the stands! You aint got no damn car!"
http://youtu.be/kqMjW3FxrUE
lol man u must really wanna run my little 4CYL. i was referring to FWD sir
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Originally Posted by David88vert
Funny shit!!
http://youtu.be/lKpqohDuQPM
Yea thats some funny shit . I used ride with mike adams to eatonton when quick was racing mikes s10. Ive seen it all man that shit on you tube isnt anything lol. Ive seen that little s10 win 10,000 dollars a few times. i dont think anybody ever saw what that truck could realy do . finally they just dismantled it and sold everythimg after they couldnt get a race any more. i figured he made a killing off that truck but when i asked him he said hell no he had over 80,000 dollars in that econo painted s10 lol. I guess thats how you have to role to get races lol. I had a blast though got to ride with the big dawgs and never cost me a dollar lol.
i never get on here promoting a car that isnt mine or talking shit but i do know who the big dawgs arounr here are and if any of you atl guys want some money runs im sure i can hook you up. Im not talking about play shit 5.50 in the eight and you will still lose. Ive seen alot of broken hearts over racing but you know what they say if you cant afford to lose it dont bet it lol. The best grudge race ive seen was at twiggs awhile back good stuff there sometimes.
I rode with jmill and them guys back in the day, learned the all the shit talk from them boys.. Shits funny when you go back and watch it!!Quote:
Originally Posted by h22 jones
Bobby text me the info on the car your talking about . I sold my shell so im looking for another one and i need to get started . i was going to call shawn and see what hapened to old upgrade car but im sure its long gone.
If it wasnt for the fact of always being on our turf (i guess that how you would say it lol) . I can honestly say i might have been scared a few timew but when you know everybody there not to much to worry about . I will say they talk way more shit then we type and ive never seen a fight well not that had to do with my crowd there were always someidiots acting the fool.
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Originally Posted by h22 jones
Hit up stretch, it's their car.. It's pretty sick!!
Little birdy told me that he might need paint work done, something to keep in mind.. ;)
Vteckidd, come play!!
My DD vs your DD wager is a tank of gas!!
http://youtu.be/_0VdMOywFe8
I'm not bragging;)Quote:
Originally Posted by h22 jones
Mike here's food for thought for you. What would happen if a 300whp k series hatch STILL beat a 300whp H2B hatch with a 4.4,4.78 AND a 4.9 final drive? What other avenues do the h2b car have then?:D Does the 300whp h2b car take his loss or does he resort back to the ol "well at least it cost me $2-5k LESS to build my 300whp setup":taun:Quote:
If a stock h22 with bolt ons makes 210hp with a h2b setup and a stock h series makes 185hp with a h tranny what would a 252hp h series motor make bolted to a b series tranny ? Ill be willing to bet i could bolt a b16 tranny to the 252hp motor in the si hatch with a 3 inch exhaust and hit well above 260 (thats being moddest )
Now food for though gregg (ince you keep getting your bragg on lol ) . If we built that motor with kleft over shit i would be real curious to see what the next one bolted to a b16 with a 4.9 final drive will Do. I may have to take the 4.9 out but ill leave it in there why its on the dyno just for you gregg :)
Food for thought 2. If H22jones makes 300whp AND list ALL of his parts from A to Z, does that mean the next person that comes along with money and buy all of his parts will make 300whp also????????????????????
Oh and mike, i dont think the H series will retire/sway bobby b4 the K series does:taun::taun::taun::boobies::boobies::taun::tau n:
Yea because they know how to shit talk without getting all butthurt and crying and shit! They dont say"i dont want you to like me:cry:" and they dont say"FUCK YOU:2up:"either.(well, not in the fighting way,LOL!)Quote:
Originally Posted by h22 jones
They talk shit right back to you without starting fights or trying to punk you. REAL MOTHERFUCKERS:goodjob::goodjob::goodjob:
On my last dyno sheet, my car made 330 with the blower, before I sent it for a rebuild to freshen it up. That was a 10#s of boost. Its a small Vortech - entry model.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1civic
I have a low mileage stock, original block - not a 306.
I am stock suspension - although I did replace the rear lower control arms with weight jackers - needed to clear my new wheels - 18" AREs.
I have full interior, stereo, etc. Battery is even still up front. My car is not a drag car by any means.
The pressure is all on you.
You have a built motor, in a race car chassis.
I have a stock 90's model car with just a stock V8 and a entry level blower.
I know - I was just picking on you. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by *EFilliated*
Lol :cheers:
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Originally Posted by David88vert
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Originally Posted by *EFilliated*
your gay :lmfao: