turbo civic putting in work

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Originally Posted by stretch

nothing has changed with the blue car besides engine oil and state it is in... and that car is a STREET CAR... registered and everything... we just take the seats out to race...lol

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well i meant it was your "racing car" like you guys street race in it. so if you didnt want to post its dyno numbers or have someone see what it makes i would understand.

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Originally Posted by Vteckidd

1 dimensional means you honestly think that hp numbers are identical from state to state.

Im telling you they are NOT. Not all dynos are the same. ive seen 10whp differences from 1 dynojet to another IN GA from two shops 10 miles apart. If someone bet me i made 230whp in 2006, i would have won on mainstreams dyno (237) and lost on BGs dyno (228). I dynoed within 30 minutes of each other, shops BOTH have dynojets and are within 10 miles of each other.

So when people start bragging about NUMBERS , and they claim a REALLY HIGH NUMBER, THE HIGHEST EVER FOR A B SERIES IN GA, you should expect people to ask for proof.

The reason why i ask for it to be on Mainstreams dyno is because all previous OTHER highest hp cars NA in GA have dynoed there. So its a good MEASURING stick. We dont know about YOUR dyno and what it displays.

If you start churning out 250whp cars and they run 13s, we know your dyno is way higher than mainstreams. So why would i bet to have you prove it on YOUR dyno when it hasnt dynoed any of the other high hp cars here?

Thats just common sense.

If it makes 250 on your dyno in woodstock, awesome, you can say you have a car that makes 250whp. And i wont be able to dispute that. But you cant even say THAT RIGHT NOW.

Define Experience? I bet even your BEST year you didnt touch the sales kiddracing did :) I have business experience, i was never a grease monkey. Not my thing. :)

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So does that mean because you dynoed at 237 and at 228 that your car doesnt make 237? Ahhhh ha.... LMAO you contradict yourself so much you dont even realize it.

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Originally Posted by Vtecddik

1 dimensional means you honestly think that hp numbers are identical from state to state.

Im telling you they are NOT. Not all dynos are the same. ive seen 10whp differences from 1 dynojet to another IN GA from two shops 10 miles apart. If someone bet me i made 230whp in 2006, i would have won on mainstreams dyno (237) and lost on BGs dyno (228). I dynoed within 30 minutes of each other, shops BOTH have dynojets and are within 10 miles of each other.

So when people start bragging about NUMBERS , and they claim a REALLY HIGH NUMBER, THE HIGHEST EVER FOR A B SERIES IN GA, you should expect people to ask for proof.

The reason why i ask for it to be on Mainstreams dyno is because all previous OTHER highest hp cars NA in GA have dynoed there. So its a good MEASURING stick. We dont know about YOUR dyno and what it displays.

If you start churning out 250whp cars and they run 13s, we know your dyno is way higher than mainstreams. So why would i bet to have you prove it on YOUR dyno when it hasnt dynoed any of the other high hp cars here?

Thats just common sense.

If it makes 250 on your dyno in woodstock, awesome, you can say you have a car that makes 250whp. And i wont be able to dispute that. But you cant even say THAT RIGHT NOW.

Define Experience? I bet even your BEST year you didnt touch the sales kiddracing did :) I have business experience, i was never a grease monkey. Not my thing. :)

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So stick to what you know....

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Originally Posted by MidnightAuto

So does that mean because you dynoed at 237 and at 228 that your car doesnt make 237? Ahhhh ha.... LMAO you contradict yourself so much you dont even realize it.

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You really don't get it do you.

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Originally Posted by Vtecddik

You really don't get it do you.

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Uh uhhh

:facepalm:

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Originally Posted by Vteckidd

The reason why i ask for it to be on Mainstreams dyno is because all previous OTHER highest hp cars NA in GA have dynoed there. So its a good MEASURING stick.

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Originally Posted by Vteckidd

I see guys making 230-240 on dynojets on k20a.org with k20a2 and cams I/h/e. Then guys with the SAME setup make 215-220 here.

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Mike I have to bust your balls on this one... I think these claims are nuts. ever heard of John Kauffman? I bet he had the highest hp NA honda 4 cylinder in GA for 10-15 years.

And Ks here make power from what I've seen. but I have only seen K cars on dynos that I know have pretty good setups (no issues). Evan's car needs a tune badly and it still made 218 @ mainstream. so I'm pretty certain that any k20a2 without issues and the right bolt ons and tune will make 220+ at mainstream.

More cars have dyno'ed at Dynolab than any other dyno in GA, that is for certain. Arthur (the owner) hasn't changed his setup on it since 1999. If you want consistency, that is the place for it.

Well I'm going to jack my dick while drive my slow ass honda!!


Later!!

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Originally Posted by Moseley

Mike I have to bust your balls on this one... I think these claims are nuts. ever heard of John Kauffman? I bet he had the highest hp NA honda 4 cylinder in GA for 10-15 years.

And Ks here make power from what I've seen. but I have only seen K cars on dynos that I know have pretty good setups (no issues). Evan's car needs a tune badly and it still made 218 @ mainstream. so I'm pretty certain that any k20a2 without issues and the right bolt ons and tune will make 220+ at mainstream.

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John Kauffman? Lol the biggest rip off artist there ever was? Yeah right.

Chunky had plenty ipsk2 ssr header rbc intake kproed rsxs that never cracked 215-220. Yet everyone on k20a claims 230-240+

Evans made good power but the swapped k cars seem to make 5-10whp more anyway .

I can name 10 cars that never made that kind of power here. So I dunno.

Mainstream has the highest whp

H22- several 230-250whp
B series-237whp multiple 220+
k series -Gregg and many others (mose etc)

Mspi dynoed the most hondas that's fact

Nobody wants any of Maurice's 91 prelude with the h22!! making 250 for years!! sleeperrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr style

Morris, if you're going to quote me damnit, I at least want credit in the sig.

Sorry matt I just know at least 5 people kaufmann blatantly ripped off. One guy spent $10000 and got a b20block that rod knocked on start up.

Sure Kauffman might have been shady but having seen his car (road race car) hang with 500hp tube framed GT1 cars it makes you think his claims were valid. 2.2L high compression, race gas, mikuni carbs, 300crank hp. this was all back in the mid 90s. he used to tear down and modify bike motors as a hobby and did know his shit about building old school hondas.

And matt's RSX at balanced made what seems to be the equivalent of 240whp at mainstream. cams I/H/E and kpro. I have another friend completely unkown to most who made 224whp SAE with a stock K20a w/ bolt ons.

And so Gregg's car is the K series record holder just because it is the only one to have been on mainstream's dyno? lmao.

This is giving me an idea for a thread to go in the 1/4 mile section.....

Maybe I'm not making myself clear or I'm not asserting myself.

Kaufmann I only know from KMS. Which never turned out anything but lies and blown motors

I don't know about his road racing.

Mainstream has dynoed MOST of the high whp cars around. I dont know who makes the "most" but I can say that mainstream is prob the best measuring stick because the most card hVe dynoed there.

IMO

Don't really care if anyone agrees or not.

Balanced may be the only other shop with a good mix of NA Honda cars.

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Originally Posted by Vteckidd

Sorry matt I just know at least 5 people kaufmann blatantly ripped off. One guy spent $10000 and got a b20block that rod knocked on start up.

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My name is Matt and I never knew John Kauffman. But it sounds like fortunately so.

Kaufmann never built any motor I ever saw that made over 176whp, and I never saw any of his motors last longer than 3 months

I can name names and cars

John reminds me of Larry from endyn

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Originally Posted by 05dc5s

My name is Matt and I never knew John Kauffman. But it sounds like fortunately so.

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Mosely changed his sig on my phone looks like an RSX MY fault :)

Now we are arguing over semantics.

Stretch knows how to get in touch with me when they are ready

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Originally Posted by Vteckidd

Mosely changed his sig on my phone looks like an RSX MY fault :)

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No worries I was just confused as to why you named me. :cheers:

And sweet my dc5 looks like an e92! I wish I had a carbon fiber roof. :D

For the record I actually LIKE stretch and Morris. Well I don't think I've met Morris, but stretch is a cool guy. I actually talked to him on the phone today.

I would actually LOVE to see Midnight succeed and continue to churn out nice cars that forces everyone else to keep up. It's boring when no one pushes the envelope. it's always good to see new competition as well.

So regardless of what happens on the Internet, I dont HATE or SERIOUSLY dislike anyone.

I love NA hondas, whether they make 250 or 200. A well built car is a well built car, period.

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Originally Posted by DarKStaR

This is giving me an idea for a thread to go in the 1/4 mile section.....

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im curious to hear wat ur crafting up mr darkstar

Something similar to this thread.... http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/...P-REGISTRY**** But this one is outdated. We need something more current, and im thinking about breaking it down into k,b,h,d, etc... make a category for all motor and turbo, etc.. Will have to have dyno graph proof or graph in video...Maybe have a top 10 in each category. Just something ive been tinkering with.

Good idea. It's what I attempted to do.

I'd say just post shop and engine, mods, honor system is fine.

Be good to see who makes what and where.

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Originally Posted by DarKStaR

Something similar to this thread.... http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/...P-REGISTRY**** But this one is outdated. We need something more current, and im thinking about breaking it down into k,b,h,d, etc... make a category for all motor and turbo, etc.. Will have to have dyno graph proof or graph in video...Maybe have a top 10 in each category. Just something ive been tinkering with.

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great mind think alot morris was thinking about same thing

Yea, heres what im thinking, when you post your numbers...

Example: DarKStaR-2xxwhp/1xxwtq Z series mainstream......and then post graph/video/proof on numbers, maybe even a vouch.

I wouldnt get into mods besides the usuall bolt ons/cam/IM, i know some people want to keep some stuff a secret

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Originally Posted by DarKStaR

Yea, heres what im thinking, when you post your numbers...

Example: DarKStaR-2xxwhp/1xxwtq Z series mainstream......and then post graph/video/proof on numbers, maybe even a vouch.

I wouldnt get into mods besides the usuall bolt ons/cam/IM, i know some people want to keep some stuff a secret

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isnt there a thread like that already, or maybe it was quarter mile times by h22 jones.... by the way my 11.7 aint up on that list either, wats up with that....lmao

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Originally Posted by jerseyef9

like i said sir i will run you from a dig cause i cant drive
oh yeah im mad on a internet forum lmao this just something to do at work when it slow so...................am i really mad lmao smh
sorry about the stolen car and stop being butt hurt

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haha me being but hurt? i just posted my 2cents in here and u took it personal. I forgot who u were until someone sent me a txt and i laughed harder. I never take anything seriously and am still getting a kick outta u wanting to run me cuz i said some random dude who's the "boss" of nyc failed miserably at an page of argument wit mike, who just talks shit cuz no1 ever takes him up on his offers.
and my car is slow too but i HAD fun driving it and making ppl go wtf, was that an accord?? :/

butt anyways i dont really wanna post in here anymore. too many pages happened in one day. pm me if u really take ia seriously, ill prob check back in a few weeks or so.

:gay:

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Originally Posted by tdurr

haha me being but hurt? i just posted my 2cents in here and u took it personal. I forgot who u were until someone sent me a txt and i laughed harder. I never take anything seriously and am still getting a kick outta u wanting to run me cuz i said some random dude who's the "boss" of nyc failed miserably at an page of argument wit mike, who just talks shit cuz no1 ever takes him up on his offers.
and my car is slow too but i HAD fun driving it and making ppl go wtf, was that an accord?? :/

butt anyways i dont really wanna post in here anymore. too many pages happened in one day. pm me if u really take ia seriously, ill prob check back in a few weeks or so.

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Originally Posted by DarKStaR

Something similar to this thread.... http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/...P-REGISTRY**** But this one is outdated. We need something more current, and im thinking about breaking it down into k,b,h,d, etc... make a category for all motor and turbo, etc.. Will have to have dyno graph proof or graph in video...Maybe have a top 10 in each category. Just something ive been tinkering with.

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I like the idea, but I think a dyno graph or video should mandatory...that would eliminate any doubt

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Originally Posted by boosted347

I like the idea, but I think a dyno graph or video should mandatory...that would eliminate any doubt

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With Photoshop and screen shot edits, that alone can make any number a doubt... LOL

No matter what I ever post some jackass will call bullshit!!! So it's pointless to ever post the shit.. I learned that a long time ago!!

I will never post a build sheet or a dyno sheet on IA for that reason... Fuck all these sorry ass people who can't handle the truth!!

lol

LATER!!

^^^lol the truth hurts some people can't handle it...haters gonna hate :yes:

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Originally Posted by 1civic

With Photoshop and screen shot edits, that alone can make any number a doubt... LOL

No matter what I ever post some jackass will call bullshit!!! So it's pointless to ever post the shit.. I learned that a long time ago!!

I will never post a build sheet or a dyno sheet on IA for that reason... Fuck all these sorry ass people who can't handle the truth!!

lol

LATER!!

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You can reverse what someone has photoshopped...but thats why i said to also have someone vouch. But I understand some people dont want others to know what motor/numbers they are making, so that means they wont be on the list.

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Originally Posted by 1civic

With Photoshop and screen shot edits, that alone can make any number a doubt... LOL

No matter what I ever post some jackass will call bullshit!!! So it's pointless to ever post the shit.. I learned that a long time ago!!

I will never post a build sheet or a dyno sheet on IA for that reason... Fuck all these sorry ass people who can't handle the truth!!

lol

LATER!!

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not starting anything but........
if theres no reason to lie, then no one will call bullshit.

Just some advice, if you go around telling people you make XXXwhp then you should be able to back it up. If you dont want to, or dont care what people think, or whatever your reason is, then you shouldnt quote a number in the first place. Make sense?

Like if i went around claiming my D series makes 250 NA, i would fully expect people to say "wtf, really?" i better
1) Run 11s
2) Have a dyno sheet

Anything less than that OF COURSE people are going to question you. Thats just common sense, and you would be the same way.

:)

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Originally Posted by Vteckidd

not starting anything but........
if theres no reason to lie, then no one will call bullshit.

Just some advice, if you go around telling people you make XXXwhp then you should be able to back it up. If you dont want to, or dont care what people think, or whatever your reason is, then you shouldnt quote a number in the first place. Make sense?

Like if i went around claiming my D series makes 250 NA, i would fully expect people to say "wtf, really?" i better
1) Run 11s
2) Have a dyno sheet

Anything less than that OF COURSE people are going to question you. Thats just common sense, and you would be the same way.

:)

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Guess I've been a street racer to long, I could care less what it makes on a dyno.. But yes I see your point!!

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Originally Posted by 1civic

Guess I've been a street racer to long, I could care less what it makes on a dyno.. But yes I see your point!!

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wowwwwwwwwww.... 1 civic agreed with vtecckidd...oh shit............. someone should sticky this man, it gotta go down in history........LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOO

Hell has froze over.lol

i agree... vtecc kidd probably passed out from seeing this thats why he aint post nothing else yet. some go to check on mike and make sure he ok...lmaoooooooo

Lol