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    Quote Originally Posted by Quicksilverado View Post
    What? If you can't run a number at the track and daily drive it, Then you roll race aka ricer talk. I daily drive my truck and it will perform just as well at the track as it will on the street. A set of slicks will do wonders.
    No. It's not ricer talk at all sorry. He used an example of the cars ability to accelerate from one given speed to another and just because it was'nt from 0-XXX does'nt make it ricer talk. A car that can get off the line well but then falls off as it goes down the 1320 due to either gearing or power to weight or both is no better or worse than another car that does'nt get off the line as well but picks up acceleration as it goes down the track if both cars run the same E.T.

    So just because he used an example of a speed contest thats most likely to occur between two street cars does'nt mean hes talking like a ricer. Yes slicks do wonders and yes I want to see this car at the strip but I'm sorry on the whole "ricer talk" thing we just disagree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 05dc5s View Post
    No. It's not ricer talk at all sorry. He used an example of the cars ability to accelerate from one given speed to another and just because it was'nt from 0-XXX does'nt make it ricer talk. A car that can get off the line well but then falls off as it goes down the 1320 due to either gearing or power to weight or both is no better or worse than another car that does'nt get off the line as well but picks up acceleration as it goes down the track if both cars run the same E.T.

    So just because he used an example of a speed contest thats most likely to occur between two street cars does'nt mean hes talking like a ricer. Yes slicks do wonders and yes I want to see this car at the strip but I'm sorry on the whole "ricer talk" thing we just disagree.
    Sorry to bust your bubble, but roll racing is ricer talk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quicksilverado View Post
    Sorry to bust your bubble, but roll racing is ricer talk.
    No youre still wrong and I am beginning to think youre good at it lol. Here is an examle: You maybe have a quick truck that maybe runs a good e.t. at the track but I doubt that it can reach 160mph because of gearing or aero. Now because my not quick at all rsx can acheive that speed does it mean your truck is any less impressive? No of course not. This is because it's a matter or opinion, preference, or conditions on the type of speed contest you may set your car up for. This car can and will do well at the track but thats not where its most likely to be found so using an example of a speed contest that it is most likely to encounter is a fair and accurate gauge of the cars ability. Just because it's yet to be measured by your gauge of preference does't give you any more right to call it a ricer than it would me or many other non-quick cars the right to call your call slow because we can reach a higher top speed than you on the freeway.

    LOL by your standards any car thats yet to run their current setup at the track but sites an example of their capability of their new performance is a ricer. Hahaha youre funny
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    I can understand people racing on the street from a roll. It is still ricer talk though. Truck has 3.42 rear gear and with the tall tires they are probably closer to 3.08. It may be a brick going down the road, but it has enough power to overcome that. Truck with equivalent power went 192 in the standing mile. I'm not crazy enough to attempt that however. Unless your DC5 is modded I doubt it could hit 160.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quicksilverado View Post
    I can understand people racing on the street from a roll. It is still ricer talk though. Truck has 3.42 rear gear and with the tall tires they are probably closer to 3.08. It may be a brick going down the road, but it has enough power to overcome that. Truck with equivalent power went 192 in the standing mile. I'm not crazy enough to attempt that however. Unless your DC5 is modded I doubt it could hit 160.
    It got a little off topic me making the assumption(because I truly dont know nor care) that your car couldnt reach 160 but that was just an example to demonstrate my point which is something you may want to try because just repeating "roll racing is ricer talk" over and over really proves nothing. Perhaps you could show some correlation between someone citing an example of a speed contest not starting from a dig and someone making their car look like a spaceship otherwise you should just stop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 05dc5s View Post
    It got a little off topic me making the assumption(because I truly dont know nor care) that your car couldnt reach 160 but that was just an example to demonstrate my point which is something you may want to try because just repeating "roll racing is ricer talk" over and over really proves nothing. Perhaps you could show some correlation between someone citing an example of a speed contest not starting from a dig and someone making their car look like a spaceship otherwise you should just stop.
    I simply asked what the car ran at the track. Plenty of cars can go to the dyno and make good #s. I was curious what it could do at the track. Anyone can do highway runs, but cannot produce a good elasped time. No traction or suspension mods needed for roll racing. Sorry man, I'm old school and hwy rolls are ricer races. Standing mile is also a good indication of a cars capabilities. And your argument about a car performing good by runnning a good et and not traping very well is ridiculous. Just because someone has a ride setup to perform to its potential and run a good et in my opinion, means they have spent more time tweaking it for the best results possible, given they have a low amount of horse power. If the car is making the #s the op said, and given the weight it should perform well at the track . If not, some seat time at the track and some tweaking will make him a better driver from a dig.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quicksilverado View Post
    I simply asked what the car ran at the track. Plenty of cars can go to the dyno and make good #s. I was curious what it could do at the track. Anyone can do highway runs, but cannot produce a good elasped time. No traction or suspension mods needed for roll racing. Sorry man, I'm old school and hwy rolls are ricer races. Standing mile is also a good indication of a cars capabilities. And your argument about a car performing good by runnning a good et and not traping very well is ridiculous. Just because someone has a ride setup to perform to its potential and run a good et in my opinion, means they have spent more time tweaking it for the best results possible, given they have a low amount of horse power. If the car is making the #s the op said, and given the weight it should perform well at the track . If not, some seat time at the track and some tweaking will make him a better driver from a dig.
    You asked what the car ran at the track and it has yet to be back to the track in its current configuration. When another example was cited to demonstrate what the car was capable of you called it ricer talk. However you have yet show any correlation between that example and it being ricer talk. How your being "old school"(which is so cliche btw) and that somehow making a highway speed contest a ricer race is what is ridiculous. The example I cited about running a good et with a low trap was not. When you called it ricer talk you were refering the car in a negative context and that example was used to "defend" the car because its a very respectable car thats daily driven, reliable, quick, and was built by the owner in a garage.

    I do agree the car should do well at the track and I also agreed that I wanted to see what it would run. It like most car will require some dialing in but I expect it to be very impressive for its power level. Where we still disagree is that a roll race is a ricer race and that the example was ricer talk. There are many non ricer cars including this one that choose to engage in that sort of a speed challenge so you're statement which you have yet to back up is flawed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Quicksilverado View Post
    Sorry to bust your bubble, but roll racing is ricer talk.
    Since the owner of the hatch doesn't own slicks, slicks are not DOT legal, and it is a DAILY DRIVEN STREET CAR... the car runs drag radials on the street and does a lot of runs from 40mph because that is where it hooks up.

    So if talking roll racing with STREET CARS is ricer talk, what is it when you say "it aint shit unless you show me an ET"... redneck talk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 05dc5s View Post
    No. It's not ricer talk at all sorry. He used an example of the cars ability to accelerate from one given speed to another and just because it was'nt from 0-XXX does'nt make it ricer talk. A car that can get off the line well but then falls off as it goes down the 1320 due to either gearing or power to weight or both is no better or worse than another car that does'nt get off the line as well but picks up acceleration as it goes down the track if both cars run the same E.T.

    So just because he used an example of a speed contest thats most likely to occur between two street cars does'nt mean hes talking like a ricer. Yes slicks do wonders and yes I want to see this car at the strip but I'm sorry on the whole "ricer talk" thing we just disagree.
    Well spoken argument.

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