the killsforum officially sucks

[Lankhoss]

you're one of the most hypocritical people on here lank. If someone is in your "crew" they can do no wrong. You talk down and condescending to slower cars , you have called me a ricer for sandbagging but when anyone in your posse does it it's just rules of streetracing.

You have called me names you wouldn't do it person we all know that your altercation with Phil proved that.

I just saying you act more of a badass than you really are and most of us do, but I at least admit it

I am still not seeing the connection here. If I don't agree with something a friend of mine says, I just don't say anything. Have I ever condoned or supported the shit talking from my "posse" that I don't like from other people? Have I ever said "It's ok for Btstone to be this way, but it's not ok for you to be that way"? We all know that it's just a big drama fest talking about Btstone's car, and there's no definite right or wrong answer. He's shared info with me about it that he may or may not share with you guys, and whether that info is true or not is beside the point....because you guys are all just SURE he's a liar because you don't like him.

I have never agreed with Thacker trying to race people that are slower than him for money, and I've actually told him that IN PERSON. We're still friends, but there are a lot of things he does or says that I simply don't agree with....he's different than I am. Smacked has called out slower cars, but he's also gotten beaten by cars that are supposed to be slower than him (remember what his reputation was when he first got on here?) so I honestly have no problem with him. He is usually respectful with his initial callout, regardless of what the discussion may turn into. But unlike you, Smacked doesn't try to downplay his car at all. He posts his dyno numbers, suspension mods, what tires he will be on, and we all know he had an 11.7 for the longest time, before he beat that with an 11.4 recently. And those times are all pretty accurate to what the car SHOULD be running, unlike the near 2 second variation you like to pawn your car off on. Which, by the way, I didn't realize your 14.1@99 was done BEFORE your valvetrain job....which makes it even more bullshit that you tried to use your old time to describe how fast your car is currently.

Yes, I am going to have more of a tolerance for shit from my friends than random people...but who doesn't? You and your "posse" do the same shit on here as well. But the thing is, I don't "LET" them act a certain way because they are my friends, I have chosen to BE FRIENDS with these people, because they are NOT the same thing that I rant and rave about on here. People do not understand the difference in someone who talks shit for fun and amusement, and an actual shady douchebag. I will admit that I make assumptions about people online, and the majority of the time I am right. Until I see things change and find that my observations about people are wrong quite often, then I will continue to be that way.

As far as my altercation with Phil goes, I don't see how that proves your point. I never once told Phil I'd fight him, and in fact told him several times that night I wouldn't. I make it obvious, online, that I'm not ever going to fight someone over a stupid internet argument. The reason Phil and I don't get along, is because I think he's stupid and hypocritical. The FIRST words out of my mouth when Phil called me over to the side and snapped at me tolding me to "cut the bullshit online," I said "YOU STOP BEING RETARDED AND I'LL STOP SAYING SHIT TO YOU ONLINE." I couldn't really make it more obvious to him, how I felt and I have no desire to try to make up or be friends with the guy. So I don't "back up" what I say about him because I didn't fight him? Is that how you gague how serious someone is about the words they say?

I don't try to find races with slower cars than me, nor do I go around trying to pressure slower cars into racing my friends' faster cars. I don't dig up personal information and post it into threads, in an attempt to try to describe why I think they don't agree with me about cars or racing.

The difference in online and real life, is while I'm reading and/or participating in a thread is: Online I can't control when you or others speak in the same discussion that I am involved in. In real life, if I don't like you or you annoy the shit out of me, I CAN JUST AVOID YOU. Which is how most adults would handle things. There's NO REASON for me to come get up in someone's face and tell them how dumb they are, just like there's no reason for them to come to me and say the same thing. The night with Phil solved NOTHING whatsoever....all it did was create a short-lived thread in the Whoreslounge. The only reason I decided to make an effort to stop saying stuff to him online, was in that thread he FINALLY respectfully asked me to just stay out of his threads, and he'd stay out of mine...and he did it without copping an attitude or calling me names.

YOU seem to be the one with a toughguy attitude that thinks we all have shit to prove to other people, as if there's some kinda sacred "street rep" that is vital to our social lives, and must be supported by physical threats and assaults.

[Evil Goat]

I am still not seeing the connection here. If I don't agree with something a friend of mine says, I just don't say anything. Have I ever condoned or supported the shit talking from my "posse" that I don't like from other people? Have I ever said "It's ok for Btstone to be this way, but it's not ok for you to be that way"? We all know that it's just a big drama fest talking about Btstone's car, and there's no definite right or wrong answer. He's shared info with me about it that he may or may not share with you guys, and whether that info is true or not is beside the point....because you guys are all just SURE he's a liar because you don't like him.

I have never agreed with Thacker trying to race people that are slower than him for money, and I've actually told him that IN PERSON. We're still friends, but there are a lot of things he does or says that I simply don't agree with....he's different than I am. Smacked has called out slower cars, but he's also gotten beaten by cars that are supposed to be slower than him (remember what his reputation was when he first got on here?) so I honestly have no problem with him. He is usually respectful with his initial callout, regardless of what the discussion may turn into. But unlike you, Smacked doesn't try to downplay his car at all. He posts his dyno numbers, suspension mods, what tires he will be on, and we all know he had an 11.7 for the longest time, before he beat that with an 11.4 recently. And those times are all pretty accurate to what the car SHOULD be running, unlike the near 2 second variation you like to pawn your car off on. Which, by the way, I didn't realize your 14.1@99 was done BEFORE your valvetrain job....which makes it even more bullshit that you tried to use your old time to describe how fast your car is currently.

Yes, I am going to have more of a tolerance for shit from my friends than random people...but who doesn't? You and your "posse" do the same shit on here as well. But the thing is, I don't "LET" them act a certain way because they are my friends, I have chosen to BE FRIENDS with these people, because they are NOT the same thing that I rant and rave about on here. People do not understand the difference in someone who talks shit for fun and amusement, and an actual shady douchebag. I will admit that I make assumptions about people online, and the majority of the time I am right. Until I see things change and find that my observations about people are wrong quite often, then I will continue to be that way.

As far as my altercation with Phil goes, I don't see how that proves your point. I never once told Phil I'd fight him, and in fact told him several times that night I wouldn't. I make it obvious, online, that I'm not ever going to fight someone over a stupid internet argument. The reason Phil and I don't get along, is because I think he's stupid and hypocritical. The FIRST words out of my mouth when Phil called me over to the side and snapped at me tolding me to "cut the bullshit online," I said "YOU STOP BEING RETARDED AND I'LL STOP SAYING SHIT TO YOU ONLINE." I couldn't really make it more obvious to him, how I felt and I have no desire to try to make up or be friends with the guy. So I don't "back up" what I say about him because I didn't fight him? Is that how you gague how serious someone is about the words they say?

I don't try to find races with slower cars than me, nor do I go around trying to pressure slower cars into racing my friends' faster cars. I don't dig up personal information and post it into threads, in an attempt to try to describe why I think they don't agree with me about cars or racing.

The difference in online and real life, is while I'm reading and/or participating in a thread is: Online I can't control when you or others speak in the same discussion that I am involved in. In real life, if I don't like you or you annoy the shit out of me, I CAN JUST AVOID YOU. Which is how most adults would handle things. There's NO REASON for me to come get up in someone's face and tell them how dumb they are, just like there's no reason for them to come to me and say the same thing. The night with Phil solved NOTHING whatsoever....all it did was create a short-lived thread in the Whoreslounge. The only reason I decided to make an effort to stop saying stuff to him online, was in that thread he FINALLY respectfully asked me to just stay out of his threads, and he'd stay out of mine...and he did it without copping an attitude or calling me names.

YOU seem to be the one with a toughguy attitude that thinks we all have shit to prove to other people, as if there's some kinda sacred "street rep" that is vital to our social lives, and must be supported by physical threats and assaults.

cliff notes?

[Echonova]

I am still not seeing the connection here. If I don't agree with something a friend of mine says, I just don't say anything. Have I ever condoned or supported the shit talking from my "posse" that I don't like from other people? Have I ever said "It's ok for Btstone to be this way, but it's not ok for you to be that way"? We all know that it's just a big drama fest talking about Btstone's car, and there's no definite right or wrong answer. He's shared info with me about it that he may or may not share with you guys, and whether that info is true or not is beside the point....because you guys are all just SURE he's a liar because you don't like him.

I have never agreed with Thacker trying to race people that are slower than him for money, and I've actually told him that IN PERSON. We're still friends, but there are a lot of things he does or says that I simply don't agree with....he's different than I am. Smacked has called out slower cars, but he's also gotten beaten by cars that are supposed to be slower than him (remember what his reputation was when he first got on here?) so I honestly have no problem with him. He is usually respectful with his initial callout, regardless of what the discussion may turn into. But unlike you, Smacked doesn't try to downplay his car at all. He posts his dyno numbers, suspension mods, what tires he will be on, and we all know he had an 11.7 for the longest time, before he beat that with an 11.4 recently. And those times are all pretty accurate to what the car SHOULD be running, unlike the near 2 second variation you like to pawn your car off on. Which, by the way, I didn't realize your 14.1@99 was done BEFORE your valvetrain job....which makes it even more bullshit that you tried to use your old time to describe how fast your car is currently.

Yes, I am going to have more of a tolerance for shit from my friends than random people...but who doesn't? You and your "posse" do the same shit on here as well. But the thing is, I don't "LET" them act a certain way because they are my friends, I have chosen to BE FRIENDS with these people, because they are NOT the same thing that I rant and rave about on here. People do not understand the difference in someone who talks shit for fun and amusement, and an actual shady douchebag. I will admit that I make assumptions about people online, and the majority of the time I am right. Until I see things change and find that my observations about people are wrong quite often, then I will continue to be that way.

As far as my altercation with Phil goes, I don't see how that proves your point. I never once told Phil I'd fight him, and in fact told him several times that night I wouldn't. I make it obvious, online, that I'm not ever going to fight someone over a stupid internet argument. The reason Phil and I don't get along, is because I think he's stupid and hypocritical. The FIRST words out of my mouth when Phil called me over to the side and snapped at me tolding me to "cut the bullshit online," I said "YOU STOP BEING RETARDED AND I'LL STOP SAYING SHIT TO YOU ONLINE." I couldn't really make it more obvious to him, how I felt and I have no desire to try to make up or be friends with the guy. So I don't "back up" what I say about him because I didn't fight him? Is that how you gague how serious someone is about the words they say?

I don't try to find races with slower cars than me, nor do I go around trying to pressure slower cars into racing my friends' faster cars. I don't dig up personal information and post it into threads, in an attempt to try to describe why I think they don't agree with me about cars or racing.

The difference in online and real life, is while I'm reading and/or participating in a thread is: Online I can't control when you or others speak in the same discussion that I am involved in. In real life, if I don't like you or you annoy the shit out of me, I CAN JUST AVOID YOU. Which is how most adults would handle things. There's NO REASON for me to come get up in someone's face and tell them how dumb they are, just like there's no reason for them to come to me and say the same thing. The night with Phil solved NOTHING whatsoever....all it did was create a short-lived thread in the Whoreslounge. The only reason I decided to make an effort to stop saying stuff to him online, was in that thread he FINALLY respectfully asked me to just stay out of his threads, and he'd stay out of mine...and he did it without copping an attitude or calling me names.

YOU seem to be the one with a toughguy attitude that thinks we all have shit to prove to other people, as if there's some kinda sacred "street rep" that is vital to our social lives, and must be supported by physical threats and assaults.

[BABY J]

I am still not seeing the connection here. If I don't agree with something a friend of mine says, I just don't say anything. Have I ever condoned or supported the shit talking from my "posse" that I don't like from other people? Have I ever said "It's ok for Btstone to be this way, but it's not ok for you to be that way"? We all know that it's just a big drama fest talking about Btstone's car, and there's no definite right or wrong answer. He's shared info with me about it that he may or may not share with you guys, and whether that info is true or not is beside the point....because you guys are all just SURE he's a liar because you don't like him.

As far as this part goes - you don't get it. I do not know of any1 who "doesn't like Brandon". For you to assume that no1 likes him is wrong. The diffference is simply this - when you don't have anything to race just STFU. No1 is "attacking" Brandon - no1 is "mistreating" him or calling him out unfairly. He brings attention to himself b/c he hasn't learned when to stfu. He and I have a love/hate relationship online but no1 (at least as far as I know) cares THAT much about it to SERIOUSLY not like the guy... they just don't like his antics. He wouldn't like it if some1 acted like he does either.

I don't treat my "friends" any different than I do any1 else in relation to how they are. If I can't give my friends a throat-punch or a gut-check and say "STFU man and quit being a douche" then who will? A friendship with me is TOUGH LOVE - not "silence" when I should be telling them to stop being/acting an ass. The difference is I can tell my friends the TRUTH and still love them afterwards and invite them over for beer. Why would I have a friend who sugar-coats shit for me? Hell I can get an enemy to do that. You said you "just don't say anything" - that's a fucked up friend IMO. Any1 of my friends who just "doesn't say anything" when I'm being a dork shouldn't be my friend - my friends should be the FIRST to tell me to chill the fuck out - not the last.

[Vteckidd]

I am still not seeing the connection here. If I don't agree with something a friend of mine says, I just don't say anything. Have I ever condoned or supported the shit talking from my "posse" that I don't like from other people? Have I ever said "It's ok for Btstone to be this way, but it's not ok for you to be that way"? We all know that it's just a big drama fest talking about Btstone's car, and there's no definite right or wrong answer. He's shared info with me about it that he may or may not share with you guys, and whether that info is true or not is beside the point....because you guys are all just SURE he's a liar because you don't like him.

Im not going to give you the satisfaction of going down that downward spiral again so we can sit here and banter back and forth over coulda shoulda wouldas. I dont have anything against Stone, ive SEEN his car when he didnt know about it (inline pro is 7 min from my sisters house in VA) and i never posted it on here out of respect for him because i thought that would be hitting below the belt. His car def has some go fast stuff on it, but to sit here and claim 9 second status with zero proof is horseshit and you know it.

Stone again, we are cool, im not attacking you, but you have to realize your car being CAPABLE of a 9 second pass and actually doing it are 2 different things. PERIOD.

Lank has CONSTANTLY sat there and picked apart ME when his own crew does the same "ricer" shit he accuses me of.

Do you want to argue my redline, my tires , my sandbagging, my Final Drive, and anything else under the sun?

But unlike you, Smacked doesn't try to downplay his car at all. He posts his dyno numbers, suspension mods, what tires he will be on, and we all know he had an 11.7 for the longest time, before he beat that with an 11.4 recently. And those times are all pretty accurate to what the car SHOULD be running, unlike the near 2 second variation you like to pawn your car off on. Which, by the way, I didn't realize your 14.1@99 was done BEFORE your valvetrain job....which makes it even more bullshit that you tried to use your old time to describe how fast your car is currently.

You are stupid. And i dont know why i respond to you. My cars DYNO NUMBERS, VIDEOs, TRACK tIMES were posted long before i called ANYONE out. You just never cared to go read it. My dyno charts were floating around on the Forums before my car ever LEFT the dyno lol (i posted the chart on facebook before it was even unstrapped).

At the time my car had run 14.1, i NEVER LIED. It had NEVER been faster. When i went back to the track on SLICKS and it ran FASTER i posted the updated time. SO again you are wrong. I dont DOWNPLAY, i just dont play the same stupid games you do. I stick to the facts. My car with 198whp ran 14.1. PERIOD i dont care if you THOUGHT it was some 12 second car, it wasnt and STILL ISNT. I LOST to many HIGH 13 second cars.

And the funny thing was i was CHALLENGING 12 second and UNDER CARs an all you guys CHOKED and PUSSIED OUT LOL. NO ONE would run an NA ALL MOTOR CRX that made barely over 200whp. I got the last laugh as everyone tells me how funny it is the big bad boys of the KF get punked out by Phil and a Honda CRX.

Yes, I am going to have more of a tolerance for shit from my friends than random people...but who doesn't? You and your "posse" do the same shit on here as well. But the thing is, I don't "LET" them act a certain way because they are my friends, I have chosen to BE FRIENDS with these people, because they are NOT the same thing that I rant and rave about on here. People do not understand the difference in someone who talks shit for fun and amusement, and an actual shady douchebag. I will admit that I make assumptions about people online, and the majority of the time I am right. Until I see things change and find that my observations about people are wrong quite often, then I will continue to be that way.

I have very FEW friends on here, i speak for myself , no one else. Ive actually met Stone and as far as im concerned we buried any problems we may have had. Ive never met you, so my only opinion of you is that you like to type tough on the internet or talk mass amounts of shit on the net, but in person you are prob very soft spoken.

As far as my altercation with Phil goes, I don't see how that proves your point. I never once told Phil I'd fight him, and in fact told him several times that night I wouldn't. I make it obvious, online, that I'm not ever going to fight someone over a stupid internet argument. The reason Phil and I don't get along, is because I think he's stupid and hypocritical. The FIRST words out of my mouth when Phil called me over to the side and snapped at me tolding me to "cut the bullshit online," I said "YOU STOP BEING RETARDED AND I'LL STOP SAYING SHIT TO YOU ONLINE." I couldn't really make it more obvious to him, how I felt and I have no desire to try to make up or be friends with the guy. So I don't "back up" what I say about him because I didn't fight him? Is that how you gague how serious someone is about the words they say?

my only point is you talked shit to someone online and you got chumped out. Period. You can sugarcoat it all you want, but you pissed someone off by running your mouth, and they got in your face and you backed down, then came online to act like some wounded victim. Not everyone is as level headed as me. If i ever see you out i wont come running up to you to mouth off, but i wont be friendly either. My point is you mouthed off to the wrong person, watch what you say is all.

YOU seem to be the one with a toughguy attitude that thinks we all have shit to prove to other people, as if there's some kinda sacred "street rep" that is vital to our social lives, and must be supported by physical threats and assaults.

Im not a tough guy at all, i just about fell out of my chair when you said others were hypocrites.

ONLINE you are one of the most hypocritical people on here, and you have a chip on your shoulder.

I have nothing to prove, i drive a 3 colored 19 year old honda, who cares about me.

[Lankhoss]

Im not going to give you the satisfaction of going down that downward spiral again so we can sit here and banter back and forth over coulda shoulda wouldas. I dont have anything against Stone, ive SEEN his car when he didnt know about it (inline pro is 7 min from my sisters house in VA) and i never posted it on here out of respect for him because i thought that would be hitting below the belt. His car def has some go fast stuff on it, but to sit here and claim 9 second status with zero proof is horseshit and you know it.

Stone again, we are cool, im not attacking you, but you have to realize your car being CAPABLE of a 9 second pass and actually doing it are 2 different things. PERIOD.

Lank has CONSTANTLY sat there and picked apart ME when his own crew does the same "ricer" shit he accuses me of.

Do you want to argue my redline, my tires , my sandbagging, my Final Drive, and anything else under the sun?



You are stupid. And i dont know why i respond to you. My cars DYNO NUMBERS, VIDEOs, TRACK tIMES were posted long before i called ANYONE out. You just never cared to go read it. My dyno charts were floating around on the Forums before my car ever LEFT the dyno lol (i posted the chart on facebook before it was even unstrapped).

At the time my car had run 14.1, i NEVER LIED. It had NEVER been faster. When i went back to the track on SLICKS and it ran FASTER i posted the updated time. SO again you are wrong. I dont DOWNPLAY, i just dont play the same stupid games you do. I stick to the facts. My car with 198whp ran 14.1. PERIOD i dont care if you THOUGHT it was some 12 second car, it wasnt and STILL ISNT. I LOST to many HIGH 13 second cars.

And the funny thing was i was CHALLENGING 12 second and UNDER CARs an all you guys CHOKED and PUSSIED OUT LOL. NO ONE would run an NA ALL MOTOR CRX that made barely over 200whp. I got the last laugh as everyone tells me how funny it is the big bad boys of the KF get punked out by Phil and a Honda CRX.


I have very FEW friends on here, i speak for myself , no one else. Ive actually met Stone and as far as im concerned we buried any problems we may have had. Ive never met you, so my only opinion of you is that you like to type tough on the internet or talk mass amounts of shit on the net, but in person you are prob very soft spoken.


my only point is you talked shit to someone online and you got chumped out. Period. You can sugarcoat it all you want, but you pissed someone off by running your mouth, and they got in your face and you backed down, then came online to act like some wounded victim. Not everyone is as level headed as me. If i ever see you out i wont come running up to you to mouth off, but i wont be friendly either. My point is you mouthed off to the wrong person, watch what you say is all.




Im not a tough guy at all, i just about fell out of my chair when you said others were hypocrites.

ONLINE you are one of the most hypocritical people on here, and you have a chip on your shoulder.

I have nothing to prove, i drive a 3 colored 19 year old honda, who cares about me.

The reason you and I argue so much, is you LOVE talking all AROUND the subject. You are just like a car salesman, and that's why I don't like you.

After the LONG discussion about your car, I was checking the 1/4 mile slip area and saw where you had posted your times about running at the track. The last time you posted (at least when I read it) was what you claimed as your last time at the track, and it was the same numbers you kept claiming your car ran (I believe it was 14.1@99mph). The thing is, you had done your valvetrain AFTER that run, but STILL told people that's all the faster your car is. Now, I know what the argument to my point is......"well, that is ACTUALLY what the car ran, that's no lie." Yeah, that's true....but to modify your car after getting those numbers, then USE THOSE NUMBERS to talk about how fast your car is, is downright shady and in my eyes just as good as lying.

Please tell me how I "chumped out" on Phil? I have an opinion of Phil, and made it apparent to him I wasn't going to fight him. He pulled me over to the side, balled up his fist, and threatened to fight me. I didn't change my opinion, didn't tell him something to his face that's different from what I say on here, and I didn't get in a physical altercation with him....like I said I wouldn't. So how is that getting chumped, punked, bitched, whatever'd out? I didn't come back here to the site and start talking about how much of a badass I was, or say anything to try to make me look tough, or hard, gangster, nothing like that. In fact, when people started talking about it.....I said I'd rather it just stay between us, and not get all swollen up here on the forums. Just because I don't like Phil (or anyone I dislike), doesn't mean I WANT the situation to escalate. But I'm also not gonna just keep my mouth shut, out of fear of someone redneck raging on me and acting like a middle schooler and coming to beat my ass because he doesn't like the words I say.

Again, I've asked you a couple of times and you fail to give me an answer......HOW, exactly, is this considered "talking shit" and not being able to "back up" what I say? How is me not getting into a fight, when I NEVER talk about fighting, not backing up what I've said?