Truthfully IMO both cars are faster than their best times, but they are claiming their cars for what they ran rather than "should run etc..". When I talked to Patrick about 2 weeks ago he said the best he did at the track was 13.8 @101. A while back I ran the sentra for the first time at commerce, first go at it I ripped the shift linkage mount in two, from running stock suspension/ stock 185/60/14 touring tires pulling a 17.07 with a 3.72 60' @ 98.86. With fucking up the sentra from the first pass and having 1st where 3rd used to be and losing 5th and reverse I lined up for the second run, launched at 1800rpm granny shifting it to a 14.09 with a 2.313 60' bouncing off the revlimiter in 3rd going through the line at 101.22. With a driver mod, I think it would have trapped atleast 102. Those times were 20whp ago. I know for you 3000lbs cars 20whp may not seem too noticeable, but for a 2000lb car its night and day. The sentra now while using the same suspension/tires I would guess could trap 105+ not to mention if it had suspention DR's/Slicks. Despite that fact Mike pulled about a car on me a few weeks back from a 40-100. Im not gonna mention what I think Mikes car should run. I see it as what we actually ran. Both Mike and I's best time was 14.1. Patrick ran a best trap of 101 matching my 101. Should they be faster, maybe. Is there proof that they are faster than stated? Nope