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    Cool Who would win??

    Just wondering who you think would win between a 380whp SRT-4 at 2900lbs and a 450whp 03 cobra at 3700lbs from about a 40 roll? I own the srt just wondering how i would do against one.

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    Probably a pretty close race. Depends on the drivers.

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    I would imagine the SRT4 would pull the Cobra. 800lbs is alot of weight to make up for and I don't think 70whp can cover it.

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    From a roll, the SRT4 for sure. From a dig, the Cobra.

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    I say SRT4 in both cases, Terminators are not good from a dig.

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    i say the srt4

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    I say 'go race and find out.'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lankhoss
    I say SRT4 in both cases, Terminators are not good from a dig.
    Same tires I would say the terminator pulls from a dig. SRT4 has a lot less torque to get out of the hole which gives the stang an advantage from that standpoint. Both of them are wheelhoppers...

    From a roll, i would have to give the win to the srt4. Turbo cars love roll runs.
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    The thing is, the SRT4 with that much horsepower would RAPE a Cobra from a roll. It's just plain and simply, a faster car....by quite a bit.

    The fact that a Cobra isn't a monster from a stop, I'd say with equal drivers the Cobra would be LUCKY to get 1.5 cars out of the hole, which wouldn't be nearly enough to make up for it's major p:w defecit.

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    I like SRT4s
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    Cool, i just was wondering cause i drove one and it seemed fast as hell but then again i am use to the power of my car plus the cobra is RWD so you really feel the force of the pull. I've been in this same situation before when i road i something and i thought it would get me but when we raced it was not even close.

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    Yeah, from the roll...no problem. From the dig, the Cobra will win. The simple lack of torque will hurt the SRT4. It is the same with my G35. From a 40 roll, I can beat a new Mustang GT, but from a dig there is no chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lankhoss
    The thing is, the SRT4 with that much horsepower would RAPE a Cobra from a roll. It's just plain and simply, a faster car....by quite a bit.

    The fact that a Cobra isn't a monster from a stop, I'd say with equal drivers the Cobra would be LUCKY to get 1.5 cars out of the hole, which wouldn't be nearly enough to make up for it's major p:w defecit.
    True, Just figured with gearing and everything Cobra would have it in the 1/4 from a dig... But I guess with equal drivers it might also depend on how far or to what speed they were actually racing... I know turbo>SC in most cases. (For higher speeds)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lankhoss
    I say SRT4 in both cases, Terminators are not good from a dig.
    X 2 see

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sGCgPogIn0
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    i say srt mabe but i honstly have no clue


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    WHat do you trap?? I have right at 400whp now and trap 121 on pump gas. I have seen a 450whp cobra trap 117-118
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    Quote Originally Posted by DynamicSound
    Yeah, from the roll...no problem. From the dig, the Cobra will win. The simple lack of torque will hurt the SRT4. It is the same with my G35. From a 40 roll, I can beat a new Mustang GT, but from a dig there is no chance.
    ?????

    You mean The simple Hella amount of tq right??

    I mean if 416wtq and only weighing in at 2845lbs is lack of torque Than I agree lol
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    Its a drivers race. It always is no matter what cars they are. I have seen cars with 300RWHP more and get pulled because the car wouldn't hook from a 90mph roll to much power for the street. Its pretty common these days

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lankhoss
    I say SRT4 in both cases, Terminators are not good from a dig.
    Mine will be and I volunteer to make this race a reality. A Terminator would dominate this race at the track. I will run the OP from a roll and a dig where ever he wants to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowhawk01
    Race and find out
    Good to see someone else sharing my opinion!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmackedInATL
    Mine will be and I volunteer to make this race a reality. A Terminator would dominate this race at the track. I will run the OP from a roll and a dig where ever he wants to.
    You need to bring your ass out to steele one weekend. I still have never seen your car run. I bet with the new suspension mods it will move out
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    (kason23) i am the one you talked to at the track with the blue big turbo srt about the diablosport predator i ran a 12.6 at 118 with a 2.4 60ft (pump gas) that next week at steele after i talked with u.

    (SmackedInATL) we do need to make this a reality you will not dominate me and if you did win it would not be by much eather way it would be fun for us. This weekend i'm taking my DTEC FC off and installing the predator and ordering a "canned tune" from rage-tek. I hope to see some big gaines from it cause with the DTEC i can only tune the fuel curve but with the predator i can mess with timing and more also.

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    Shit... I totally forgot haha... I got ya your location threw me off. Nice runs man. You will def need slicks to take smacked On the track that is. And Im glad I could talk you into the Diablo!!!! Great piece of equipment right there lol
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    Yea i hope it makes me proud. After i get the canned tune i am going to get it dyno tuned soon after when i get some money saved up but for now i will just street tune it i hope it makes more power with the street tuned diablo than the street tuned DTEC is now.

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    Well To be honest... when you alter a piggyback like the Dtec. It raises the timing as it pulls fuel. Which is both Really bad and prone to knock but makes more power. A DSP will not raise timing as you pull fuel. So it will not make as much as on a piggyback unless tuned VERY well. but if your getting a dyno tune you should be good to go imo. You will need a rescale of your injectors and 3 bar sensors to make your car drivable. But its well worth it in the long run
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    (kason23) I talked to rage-tek over the phone and they said if i dont plan to run over 22psi the stock map would be fine but over that i would need a 3 bar but they did say that it would not hurt to get one. I run 19 to 20psi on the stock map now with the DTEC and it seems to do fine will it act different with the predator or something how did the stock map act with you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kason23
    ?????

    You mean The simple Hella amount of tq right??

    I mean if 416wtq and only weighing in at 2845lbs is lack of torque Than I agree lol
    That is not at takeoff though which is what I clearly mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oleblue
    (kason23) I talked to rage-tek over the phone and they said if i dont plan to run over 22psi the stock map would be fine but over that i would need a 3 bar but they did say that it would not hurt to get one. I run 19 to 20psi on the stock map now with the DTEC and it seems to do fine will it act different with the predator or something how did the stock map act with you?
    Yea I had a waaaay easier time when I put the 3 bars on. It will seem sluggish imo going over the 18psi with the stock sensors

    And also I get over 350 lb ft of tq at 3100rpms.. Guess where I launch at even on STREET tires at the track? Thats right and holds through 6500rpms when I let off. You must of never ridden in a properly set-up big turbo Knee-ON I would think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kason23
    Yea I had a waaaay easier time when I put the 3 bars on. It will seem sluggish imo going over the 18psi with the stock sensors

    And also I get over 350 lb ft of tq at 3100rpms.. Guess where I launch at even on STREET tires at the track? Thats right and holds through 6500rpms when I let off. You must of never ridden in a properly set-up big turbo Knee-ON I would think?
    If the last part was to me, I am speaking of a stock SRT4 that has 250lb ft of torque. It is only common sense that if you mod the car to give you 170 more horsepower, that the torque is going to improve.

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    K my fault I didn't know since the OP car is also big turbo... well BIGASS turbo I should say lol
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    (kason23) I will get the 3 bar when i get the money but now i will have to run the stock one. I have only been in DTEC FC or APEXI FC tuned SRT-4s before thats it. You should carry me a ride in yours so i can see what one feels like tuned right.

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    That's fine with me.. I got my 750s on the way and plan to run 24psi on pump gas. I already have my tune awaiting it just give me a couple of days to get them in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oleblue
    (kason23) i am the one you talked to at the track with the blue big turbo srt about the diablosport predator i ran a 12.6 at 118 with a 2.4 60ft (pump gas) that next week at steele after i talked with u.

    (SmackedInATL) we do need to make this a reality you will not dominate me and if you did win it would not be by much eather way it would be fun for us. This weekend i'm taking my DTEC FC off and installing the predator and ordering a "canned tune" from rage-tek. I hope to see some big gaines from it cause with the DTEC i can only tune the fuel curve but with the predator i can mess with timing and more also.
    Hey oldblue thats cool but I'm trying to understand why you mention "pump gas" when you typed your 60' time. MPH don't win races at the track and and if you expect to keep up with this Cobra off the line you better get that 60' down to about a 1.60. I don't think race gas going to do that for you.

    Kason we will get to it too. I'm interested to see how I'd do against you with that trap speed. I hope to be around 3600lbs race weight when I hit the track.

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    I'm sure you and me will be a good race.. After my new tune its slicks and light weight wheels.. I have cut 1.6 sixtys before on stock turbo but this new power level might make it a PITA lol. I can already hear the axles breaking
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kason23
    I'm sure you and me will be a good race.. After my new tune its slicks and light weight wheels.. I have cut 1.6 sixtys before on stock turbo but this new power level might make it a PITA lol. I can already hear the axles breaking
    I will be making some shakedown runs on the built solid axle and new suspension setup. So there may still be some kinks to work out. When I get ready for steele we can roll down there together. I just got a 15" greg weld drag wheel setup and going to through some 26" hoosier qtp's out back. I'm hoping for good times.

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    (SmackedInATL) I was just meaning i was on pump gas when i ran that time at the track. I was on my 18's with street tires i know my 60 is a joke it want hook for shit and i am scared to run slicks i dont want to up my chances to break something im to broke at the time for that to happen.

    (kason23) are you going to the track friday?

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    Well I went last Friday.. It rained!!! And guess what there calling for rain again this Friday!!! G*d Damnit!! All it ever does is rain. So yes if it don't rain lol.
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    Cool if it dont rain me an my boy might come in his 450hp integra he wants to see what he will get with his new setup.

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    shit let me get some of that cobra.. im a 2.0 liter cobra eater(from a roll) ha ha me and oleblue own the chattanooga area we need something to beat us knock us down a knotch im on mainstreams tuned cars section for my numbers..its just a honda... oh dont let oleblue fool ya postn low boost times and low boost power

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    Well I hope you boys are running low 11s!

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