Straight line races only rule

[Frög]

Sorry Frog, don't really know what else to call you.

You're just...a stupid human being. Your brain just doesn't work very well.

Just like right now....you think that I'm calling you stupid because you road race. You think that what type of racing you like determines your educational level, apparently.

The thing is, no matter what kind of car you drive, what kind of racing you do, how good you are at it, how much money you make, or whatever else.....you're still too stupid to even be able to have a conversation. And obviously your mind is way too small to appreciate more than 1 thing at a time.

Nowhere do I think you are calling me stupid because I road race.. And nowhere do I think what type of racing determines my education level.. If that is what you deciphered from my post, I don't think your brain is working very well, or might just be too small..

But again, preach all that noise to this guy:



I joined IS understanding and respecting other peoples preferences.. Until my preference (road racing), which is a superior form of racing, got bashed on..

You guys have no better comebacks than calling me stupid? I can't believe grown man have to resort to this..

[Frög]

And obviously your mind is way too small to appreciate more than 1 thing at a time.

LOL I don't like drag racing, that means I only appreciate one thing? HAHAHAH girls, food, cars, wine, travel, flying etc.. etc.. What a retarded statement..

Unlike your assumption, I am going to attempt to make my own:

you're still too stupid to even be able to have a conversation.

I am sure I would be a lot more interesting to speak to in a conversation than you..

I have traveled more than you, I can say that because unless you are a god damn commercial pilot, I have.. I was a gold Delta and Air France member by the age of 12..

I have lived in more countries than you.. I have experienced more cultures than you.. I speak more languages than you.. I am willing to bet I have a higher education than you.. etc.. etc.. Now none of these things have anything to do with what racing I prefer, or how drag racing requires VERY little skill..

[The Creeper]

If you could easily own a z06, then why aren't you driving a c6z right now. Anyone in their right mind would take a c6z over the porsche you currently drive, no offense to the 911, they are fun cars too.

[SPOOLIN]

drag racing requires very little skill. Wow, so shallow.

I would pay to see you take an 800whp civic and put it into the mid 9's in the 1/4 mile, i think i would also buy pop corn and a drink while you TRY.

[Evolunchbox]

I am sure I would be a lot more interesting to speak to in a conversation than you..

I have traveled more than you, I can say that because unless you are a god damn commercial pilot, I have.. I was a gold Delta and Air France member by the age of 12..

I have lived in more countries than you.. I have experienced more cultures than you.. I speak more languages than you.. I am willing to bet I have a higher education than you.. etc.. etc.. Now none of these things have anything to do with what racing I prefer, or how drag racing requires VERY little skill..

This is the MOST conceded statement that anyone has made on this site to date, of my knowledge... You shit must really not stick, Frog!? These types of statements really show your true colors of arrogance and closed mindedness. It's a shame that you had the opportunities in life to be a "gold member" by the age of 12, but yet you still act like someone that has lived under a rock his entire life. Hats of to your parents



We all love different types of racing. End point. To say that one is better than the other is like a horse wearing blinders...Surely they taught you how to accept other views in your many years abroad... but I doubt you were listening.

[btstone]

i think drag requires a diff type of skill. i mean the entire point of drag racing is to squeeze every once of power out your car, then take that power and maintain it down a 1320ft strip. it may not be 3-footing the clutch and brake, and hitting the apex just right, but it does take lots of practice and time and tuning.
think of it as football. you give all you got for only a few seconds then take a break. when the car gets out of control you have to regain it. kind of like when the the play breaks down
autox is more like basketball. constant motion the entire time. lots of finess(spelling) and control are involved.

[Frög]

This is the MOST conceded statement that anyone has made on this site to date, of my knowledge... You shit must really not stick, Frog!? These types of statements really show your true colors of arrogance and closed mindedness. It's a shame that you had the opportunities in life to be a "gold member" by the age of 12, but yet you still act like someone that has lived under a rock his entire life. Hats of to your parents



We all love different types of racing. End point. To say that one is better than the other is like a horse wearing blinders...Surely they taught you how to accept other views in your many years abroad... but I doubt you were listening.

I think the proper saying is: " your shit must really not stink"


Like said in the referred post:

Now none of these things have anything to do with what racing I prefer, or how drag racing requires VERY little skill..

Im not the one calling people stupid..

This is a waste of time and energy..

[Evolunchbox]

I think the proper saying is: " your shit must really not stink"

That's the best you've got.... FAIL




FAIL, FAIL, your just FULL OF FAIL.... And I'm out:boobies:

[Frög]

That's the best you've got.... FAIL




FAIL, FAIL, your just FULL OF FAIL.... And I'm out:boobies:

Must of not read the whole post..

Fuck this, I'm out..

NO ONE CAN ARGUE THIS:

Drag racing requires a lot less skill that road racing..

[SPOOLIN]

no you fuck tard, all different version of racing can be argued upon what difficulties are involved. I'm narrow minded when it comes to LIKING other versions of motorsports like drifting or road racing but holy shit your are just fucking blind.

[Frög]

EvolunchBox-Hope I am living up to the Douche Bag Nomination

LankHoss- You call me stupid because (a) I think drag racing is gay and (b) because it requires less skill?

Well it can't be (a) because that goes against what you preach.. I respect and understand (somewhat) why some men are gay.. Doesn't mean I appreciate them.. I still think they are gay..

And (b) is true, it requires less skill..

no you fuck tard, all different version of racing can be argued upon what difficulties are involved. I'm narrow minded when it comes to LIKING other versions of motorsports like drifting or road racing but holy shit your are just fucking blind.

Still requires less skill.. I don't have time to write anything right now, I have a final in 30 minutes.. But when I get to work tonight, I will go in depth why it is that way..

[SPOOLIN]

well i can sit here and be a dumbass like you and talk about how road racing is gay and less skillful because you are pretty much in a constant state of consistent motion with accels and decels and taking turns through the same outside-inside-outside method whether it be up and down waiting for a dumbass to slipup so you can pass them only because they are the moron.

but i wont..because both take a comparable and considerable amount of skill.

I hope someone of your age isn't a representation of all the up and coming 20 somethings.

[The Creeper]

well i can sit here and be a dumbass like you and talk about how road racing is gay and less skillful because you are pretty much in a constant state of consistent motion with accels and decels and taking turns through the same outside-inside-outside method whether it be up and down waiting for a dumbass to slipup so you can pass them only because they are the moron.

but i wont..because both take a comparable and considerable amount of skill.

I hope someone of your age isn't a representation of all the up and coming 20 somethings.

Most people my age (I am 21) are complete fucktards, it's a sick sad world out there.

Also, he dodged my comment about how he said he could "easily" own a z06. He said this to Lank, who owns a C6Z. I would love to know how someone my age can easily own a c6z insurance and all. And if you can afford all that, why are you driving a old 911 and not a turbo 911?

[SPOOLIN]

probably because hes just a damn nut swinger for other guys and doesnt do anything for himself

[Lankhoss]

LOL I don't like drag racing, that means I only appreciate one thing? HAHAHAH girls, food, cars, wine, travel, flying etc.. etc.. What a retarded statement..

Unlike your assumption, I am going to attempt to make my own:



I am sure I would be a lot more interesting to speak to in a conversation than you..

I have traveled more than you, I can say that because unless you are a god damn commercial pilot, I have.. I was a gold Delta and Air France member by the age of 12..

I have lived in more countries than you.. I have experienced more cultures than you.. I speak more languages than you.. I am willing to bet I have a higher education than you.. etc.. etc.. Now none of these things have anything to do with what racing I prefer, or how drag racing requires VERY little skill..

Holy crap, you've got all of that stuff under you're belt and you're STILL this fucking stupid?

Good God. Did you suffer a head injury or something?

Edit: Just saw your second post. And I don't think you're stupid because you like road racing better, I think you're stupid because even when I type it out for you as plain and simply as I can, you still don't know WHY I think you're fucking stupid. You also can't see that everyone else thinks you're a fucking retard, and your only response is "but..but...road racing takes more skill!" Like Evo said, your parents probably tried to teach you other things in life but you just didn't listen.

And no, don't come back later and try to explain your response....not only will it make people dumber if they happen to read it, but not a single person gives a shit.

Just stop posting, and get a vasectomy.

[The Creeper]

Holy crap, you've got all of that stuff under you're belt and you're STILL this fucking stupid?

Good God. Did you suffer a head injury or something?

Edit: Just saw your second post. And I don't think you're stupid because you like road racing better, I think you're stupid because even when I type it out for you as plain and simply as I can, you still don't know WHY I think you're fucking stupid. You also can't see that everyone else thinks you're a fucking retard, and your only response is "but..but...road racing takes more skill!" Like Evo said, your parents probably tried to teach you other things in life but you just didn't listen.

And no, don't come back later and try to explain your response....not only will it make people dumber if they happen to read it, but not a single person gives a shit.

Just stop posting, and get a vasectomy.

Owned. End thread/

[OnURleft]

All in all I just think it's funny how people are so avidly against road racing when they have never even been on a track, and no a parade lap or a PDX does not count and in the BMW C.C.A, P.C.A, N.A.S.A, Chin, A.C.N.A world, neither does little Talladega

[Lankhoss]

All in all I just think it's funny how people are so avidly against road racing when they have never even been on a track, and no a parade lap or a PDX does not count and in the BMW C.C.A, P.C.A, N.A.S.A, Chin, A.C.N.A world, neither does little Talladega

Has nothing to do with road racing, or being against it. I have not seen anyone in this thread trash road racing, or be so "avidly against it."

The reason people are giving Frog shit, is because he's a fucking douchebag retard and tries to act like he's a better human being than people who prefer straightline racing. It's also just God damned useless to bring up road racing whenever you're talking about street racing....because you just don't/can't do that on the street.

[SPOOLIN]

Has nothing to do with road racing, or being against it. I have not seen anyone in this thread trash road racing, or be so "avidly against it."

The reason people are giving Frog shit, is because he's a fucking douchebag retard and tries to act like he's a better human being than people who prefer straightline racing. It's also just God damned useless to bring up road racing whenever you're talking about street racing....because you just don't/can't do that on the street.

well you could, but you have a 99.9% chance that someone WILL DIE.

[Frög]

Most people my age (I am 21) are complete fucktards, it's a sick sad world out there.

Also, he dodged my comment about how he said he could "easily" own a z06. He said this to Lank, who owns a C6Z. I would love to know how someone my age can easily own a c6z insurance and all. And if you can afford all that, why are you driving a old 911 and not a turbo 911?

Because I DD my 911! I put close to 20k miles a year on it! Don't worry, I will have a 911 turbo

I said a Z06, referring to the c5.. Who said anything about c6z? I ignored your post because you are retarded..

[Frög]

Has nothing to do with road racing, or being against it. I have not seen anyone in this thread trash road racing, or be so "avidly against it."

The reason people are giving Frog shit, is because he's a fucking douchebag retard and tries to act like he's a better human being than people who prefer straightline racing. It's also just God damned useless to bring up road racing whenever you're talking about street racing....because you just don't/can't do that on the street.

You must of not read the IS thread.. Fuck you are fucking stupid! You want me to link you dip shit?

BRB

[Frög]

LankHoss, I don't think you remember, but your buddy thacker WAS talking shit about road racing and also said, and I quote: "Porsche = Fail"

Because his shit mullet mobile was faster in a straight line!

BUAHAHAHAH this is hilarious!

[Frög]

http://**************/forums/showthread.php?t=343

Everyone, look through that thread..

Edit: Ah fuck.. Well you know what to type in the censored part

[Frög]

I am sorry if I offended or hurt anyone's feelings.. But all this is in response to that thread on IS where thacker ran his mouth about how shitty my car is and how much better his GTO was because it was faster in a straight line, when my car is made for everything but straight line.. Who sin't respecting the other's form of racing, huh lank?

Lets compare the actual SPORT, motorsport, at the professional level.. If there is a proven difference of skill between these, the same applies to the level of skill at the amateur level..

Drag racing isn't my cup of tea because I feel that drag racing requires too little skill.. Lets compare racing, a little racing 101 for some of you (some of you already mentioned the difference in skill, we are on the same page).. Nascar is like drag racing to a degree.. Both take a VERY limited skill-set and refining it to a VERY high degree.. In drag racing, it is ALL and only about launching the car and being able to shift quickly.. In Nascar, it is all about knowing when it's time to draft someone (knowing that once you pull up you draft, and once you pass they can draft you).. There really isn't much skill involved in knowing about traction and how hard you can push in turns, because they are all one big pack and are rolling around the track together.. You just stick with the pack..

It is laughable to compare the skill level of Nascar (or drag racing, for that matter) with rally, F1 driving, etc.. Lets take F1 driving, F1 is about being able to do lots of different things and do them well, not taking one or two things and taking them to a very high degree of skill.. If you want to be a good F1 driver, you have to be on the verge of crash because that is the fastest.. You have to be a excellent braker, good at starting, good at high speed turns, good at passing, good at protecting your position, good at tire management, good at lots and lots of other things.. Thacker is good at one thing, launching and shifting through.. I am a relatively accomplished drag racer (ran same as the factory time executed by pro driver).. I am not saying in anyway that average joe can Drag race ( because average joe cannot parralel park into a parking spot), but I have absolutely no doubt that if you took a group of people, trained them , put them in the needed equipment, that over some amount of time you could develop a winning Nascar driver, a winning Drag racer, BUT you could NEVER develop a winning F1 driver unless that person already had "that extra something" that is required to be great..

Look at the father/son teams who do very well in both Nascar and Drag racing.. We're supposed to believe the kids just have "it" the way the dads do? Statistically impossible........ It's because it is possible to breach the highest ranks of Nascar and Drag racing without some high level of innate skill, but it is not possible to do so in F1.. That's just how it is..

Its really pitiful that some had to resort to shit arguments..

Drag racing is gay.. Who can argue that it isn't the lowest breed of automobile racing? That is why it isn't really popular anywhere else in the world.. Racing at a drag strip can't even compare to taking your car to the limits around Road Atlanta..

The average American cannot parallel park.. When the average European driver (including women) have to do it on a daily basis.. No wonder Drag Racing is so popular here and no wonder most F1 drivers are European..

[Frög]

Unfortunately, he's too dumb to realize that this isn't a drag racing vs. road racing debate.

If this is what you are referring to, NONE of your points are valid.. Because it has become a debate.. Read other peoples posts..

Now, there are no other reasons to call me stupid.. Go ahead, if there is any other reason, SPELL IT OUT..

Owned. End thread/

LOL 404 ownage not found.. Him calling me stupid and telling me to get a vasectomy.. I remember owning kids in middle school like that..

[SPOOLIN]

lol drag is racing pretty big in other parts of the world, look at the middle east where they have very nice drag racing facilities built within world class road race facilities. Hell even in Europe they have a very large drag racing group...hell even Australia, but anyways what the other parts of the world do actually don't matter at all.

Drag racing is not all about shifting. Drag racing involves almost all of the same shit except "maintaining position" and "passing"

You have to set the car up suspension wise to be able to hook up that power that you just "shift good through" You have to tweak the alignments of the tires to get them strait at a certain point of the run to make maximum traction which takes days of work to get right, you have to be able to adjust the engine power per DAY to make up for weather and track conditions to be able to be consistent.

NASCAR is retarded, they don't even race in the rain which would totally be possible and safe with the right tires...that is a terrible group of rednex. If you look at 90% of drag racers that are serious about what they do, they are not redneck bastard Americans, they are hard working people who have payed their dues to be where they are. Drag Racing is obviously not safe on a wet surface...no argument is allowed there.

I've seen people buy pro stock drag racing chassis that ran 6.60's in the 1/4 and they could NEVER get them that fast in a years time because its DIFFICULT and not EASY. There so much involved in chassis setup and alignments, clutch settings and timing everything perfect.

Like i said before, I will PAY to see you take my car and run it as fast as i have in one days time. I would love to see you easily make it do it, ill put all of the suspension back to zero and the tune to zero and LOL at you because you are such a dumb ass when it comes to motor sports and the versions that other people love besides you.

You need to go ass fuck some guys at Road Atlanta or something, go make out with some dudes from Europe and follow them back there so you can make love to the cars at Nurburgring in the exhaust.

You sir, Are A LOAD YOUR MOTHER SHOULD HAVE SWALLOWED.

[On_Her_Face]

I disagree with NASCAR racing in the rain. If you can picture a car doing around the track at full speed and if a person could touch the car with their hand on the inside quarter panel and give it a slight push the car would spin out. With that being said I still don't think a rain tire for this application would work.

[JITB]

lol whats the point in these rules.. No one races!!

[On_Her_Face]

lol whats the point in these rules.. No one races!!

You don't contribute, so why respond? Just curious.

[Incontt]

juan pablo montoya said nascar is harder than f1. he has done both. drag racing is one of the easiest forms of racing to do. sure there is plenty to setup if you dont have a crew doing it for you but imagine nascar or f1 without a crew and all the shit they have to adjust. the driving part of circle track racing is much harder than drag racing.....once you do it you will respect the small margin of error. ill try to find the article where juan pablo compares the two of f1 vs nascar.

[On_Her_Face]

I LOVE YOUR T/A. Carry on.

[Incontt]

thanks!! i love the vette....just couldnt afford one AND the mods i want.....but i still wish i had a vette

[SPOOLIN]

i respect all forms of racing unlike the douche in this thread. i however dont care for watching or participating. i do believe that they could race in the rain if they had to of course it wouldnt be at 180 plus. noone can deny that nascar is full of redneck mentality.

[Incontt]

what pray tell is redneck mentality? i look at the top 20 drivers in nascar and dont see the rednecks......other than Jr

[SPOOLIN]

thats just how i feel, and this is beside the point that is trying to be made, All forms of racing require SIGNIFICANT skill to perform properly. none is superior to others in terms of difficulty at all points of the versions of the sport. It doesn't matter the number of teams, given that all types of sports require lots of testing...TO GET IT ALL RIGHT AND PERFECT for race day no matter the number of people participating in the team effort. All of this testing takes skill to learn what works and what does not for any type.

Frog basically said its impossible to learn over a period of say 18 years what your father did before you to be as good as he was in a nut shell. Its called a brain and it learns what is repeatedly observes. So if you grow up with a father that races formula 1 or Indy car, then you are probably going to be able to be just as good if you follow that direction in life because you LEARN. Look at the Andretti family.

[On_Her_Face]

thats just how i feel, and this is beside the point that is trying to be made, All forms of racing require SIGNIFICANT skill to perform properly. none is superior to others in terms of difficulty at all points of the versions of the sport. It doesn't matter the number of teams, given that all types of sports require lots of testing...TO GET IT ALL RIGHT AND PERFECT for race day no matter the number of people participating in the team effort. All of this testing takes skill to learn what works and what does not for any type.

Frog basically said its impossible to learn over a period of say 18 years what your father did before you to be as good as he was in a nut shell. Its called a brain and it learns what is repeatedly observes. So if you grow up with a father that races formula 1 or Indy car, then you are probably going to be able to be just as good if you follow that direction in life because you LEARN. Look at the Andretti family.

The way it should be looked at is by other sports. Look at Micheal Jorden, amazing basketball player but shitty baseball player. Each sport is not for every driver, does not mean one is tougher than the other.

[Lankhoss]

http://**************/forums/showthread.php?t=343

Everyone, look through that thread..

Edit: Ah fuck.. Well you know what to type in the censored part

I actually spent some time and skimmed over that thread. Not once did Thacker call road racing gay, he said your Porsche was fail because it was expensive and it was slow in a straight line. So funny that you are amazingly butthurt over that.

I like Porsche, they are some of the best performance cars in the world, and they always have been....but in the past 5 years or so they've lost their edge in performance over other cars, although not lost the pricetag.

Thacker was dogging you for buying a Porsche because they are pretty damn expensive, yet a C5 Corvette is extremely cheap yet very good on a road course. I am guessing that a C5 Corvette could be fairly close around a road course to an early to mid 2000's Cayman. I really don't know, I may be wrong. I just did a quick search for a 2009 Cayman S, and it looks like they're around 60k, and right around 3000lbs. A Z51 Corvette can be had for about 50k, hardly weighs anymore, and has over 100 more hp....I'm willing to bet it's just as fast, or faster around a track than a Cayman. So, I'm assuming that THAT is why Thacker claims Porsche is crap....because it's more expensive, and you don't get what you pay for in performance. However, THAT IS JUST AN OPINION ABOUT THE CAR. It has NOTHING to do with road racing vs. drag racing, and not once did Thacker claim road racing was "gay" or anything like that....he just gave you shit for driving a Porsche.

Also, you keep making these long drawn out posts about why you believe road racing is so much better than other forms of racing, and nobody gives a shit....nobody is even arguing that. Why do you just keep repeating yourself?

Oh yeah, you're fucking retarded.

[DirtyMechanic]

[JITB]

You don't contribute, so why respond? Just curious.

i contributed when it counted, and when people actually ran. instead of discussing shit for 3 weeks..and never racing. Its not rocket science, most of the races arent for money... just go and run and have fun and go home. This forums complicates shit..and makes it LAME!

and do you even race?

[Incontt]

"That is why Thacker claims Porsche is crap" ........ what an authority

I actually spent some time and skimmed over that thread. Not once did Thacker call road racing gay, he said your Porsche was fail because it was expensive and it was slow in a straight line. So funny that you are amazingly butthurt over that.

I like Porsche, they are some of the best performance cars in the world, and they always have been....but in the past 5 years or so they've lost their edge in performance over other cars, although not lost the pricetag.

Thacker was dogging you for buying a Porsche because they are pretty damn expensive, yet a C5 Corvette is extremely cheap yet very good on a road course. I am guessing that a C5 Corvette could be fairly close around a road course to an early to mid 2000's Cayman. I really don't know, I may be wrong. I just did a quick search for a 2009 Cayman S, and it looks like they're around 60k, and right around 3000lbs. A Z51 Corvette can be had for about 50k, hardly weighs anymore, and has over 100 more hp....I'm willing to bet it's just as fast, or faster around a track than a Cayman. So, I'm assuming that THAT is why Thacker claims Porsche is crap....because it's more expensive, and you don't get what you pay for in performance. However, THAT IS JUST AN OPINION ABOUT THE CAR. It has NOTHING to do with road racing vs. drag racing, and not once did Thacker claim road racing was "gay" or anything like that....he just gave you shit for driving a Porsche.

Also, you keep making these long drawn out posts about why you believe road racing is so much better than other forms of racing, and nobody gives a shit....nobody is even arguing that. Why do you just keep repeating yourself?

Oh yeah, you're fucking retarded.