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    Quote Originally Posted by SleepingTalon
    You're wrong. Hyundai/DSM, and even the 6G in the 3kgt all shared powertrains and parts alike. What's the argument with DSM vs Hyundai anyway? It's not like the build quality is any better, inside OR out, on either car. They're both equally as ****ty, and this is coming from someone who owns 3 DSM's, all from 350whp to 750whp. DSM=Hyundai, and vice versa, it's just a fact.
    So whats the 1G equivalent in Hyundai's again? Have you ever owned or driven an early 90's Hyundai and compared it to a 1G?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronsam2006
    So whats the 1G equivalent in Hyundai's again? Have you ever owned or driven an early 90's Hyundai and compared it to a 1G?
    Nah, never owned one, but my first lead tech worked at Hyundai before coming to me, and we used to get parts for our race car from Hyundai. It was easier to get from them, as much of the DSM crowd didn't realize they were the same. BTW, 1G's and the Sonata shared the same platform. This look familiar?


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    Quote Originally Posted by SleepingTalon
    Nah, never owned one, but my first lead tech worked at Hyundai before coming to me, and we used to get parts for our race car from Hyundai. It was easier to get from them, as much of the DSM crowd didn't realize they were the same. BTW, 1G's and the Sonata shared the same platform. This look familiar?

    So, when did they make AWD 2.0 turbo Sonatas? Sure it's a swap, but from factory, don't think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronsam2006
    So, when did they make AWD 2.0 turbo Sonatas? Sure it's a swap, but from factory, don't think so.
    LOL, so you're gonna try to split hair b/c of the only differences being the AWD tranny, DS, TC, and IRS? You have a FWD DSM anyway, so the parts are the same. Yes, from the factory, the Sonata was equipped with with that little 2 liter that everyone loves, unequal length axles and all. There are swaps done into those cars, as they were equipped with the N/T motors, but there is NO difference in the two. Might be a tough pill for you to swallow, but DSM = Hyundai. I know what I'm talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SleepingTalon
    LOL, so you're gonna try to split hair b/c of the only differences being the AWD tranny, DS, TC, and IRS? You have a FWD DSM anyway, so the parts are the same. Yes, from the factory, the Sonata was equipped with with that little 2 liter that everyone loves, unequal length axles and all. There are swaps done into those cars, as they were equipped with the N/T motors, but there is NO difference in the two. Might be a tough pill for you to swallow, but DSM = Hyundai. I know what I'm talking about.
    Why wasn't it included in the DSM venture? I mean, I'm not trying to split hair, I know where you are coming from, I know the Talon and Eclipse are the same, but I don't go around calling my car a Mitsubishi Eclipse, because that's not what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronsam2006
    Why wasn't it included in the DSM venture? I mean, I'm not trying to split hair, I know where you are coming from, I know the Talon and Eclipse are the same, but I don't go around calling my car a Mitsubishi Eclipse, because that's not what it is.
    All DSM's are the same, talon, eclipse, or laser. Hyundai's place in the US market was very new at the time, and they really only had one car on the market, the Excel. Their rep was that of an econo car, and one with quality issues at that. On the other hand, Mitsubishi was going after the sport compact crowd, and there's no way anyone would've bought into the hype if Hyundai's name was included. Things have turned full circle now though. Hyundai's really aren't bad cars for the money, and the build quality on their new cars is no better/worse than Mitsubishi's, or any domestic car for that matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SleepingTalon
    All DSM's are the same, talon, eclipse, or laser. Hyundai's place in the US market was very new at the time, and they really only had one car on the market, the Excel. Their rep was that of an econo car, and one with quality issues at that. On the other hand, Mitsubishi was going after the sport compact crowd, and there's no way anyone would've bought into the hype if Hyundai's name was included. Things have turned full circle now though. Hyundai's really aren't bad cars for the money, and the build quality on their new cars is no better/worse than Mitsubishi's, or any domestic car for that matter.
    Hyundai's luxury side is ok, I mean I would never buy it just because it rocks that badge. Seriously, I must be hating or something, but I can stand Hyundai or Kia. But where is the performance side of Hyundai? But how can you say Hyundai and Mitsubishi build quality is no different, so you are saying they have equal amount of R&D invested???

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