Stop the hating.

[BUGMAN]

if you ask someone to drive your car for you and something happens its on you . everyone knows anything can happen street racing so its not the drivers fault you should have driven your own car

Hm I have to disagree with ya on that but I am old school. The older generation usually accepts responsibility anytime we borrow, use, drive or operate someone else's anything.

If I borrow a neighbors shovel and brake the handle then I return the shovel with a new handle without ever saying anything. If I borrow a friends car and drive it in a lake then I take full responsibility in getting it back to the way it was asap and without hassle to them. I mean they didn't drive it in the lake but they did trust me to take care of it when I accepted the key's along with full responsibility of the property in my care.

Same goes on anything that isn't mine/yours. It doesn't matter if someone begs you to take their boat out on the lake for the weekend for some fun, if something goes wrong then it is in your hands. You don't just take it back broken and hand them the keys with a smile and a thank you. Once you take the property of any kind and operate it yourself then you are accepting full responsibility for said property.

Remember that's old school and the way a lot of us were raised. Once you accept said property then you accept all responsibilities of said property. It has always been like that for me so you will rarely ever see me driving any ones anything. I understand as soon as I accept care of someone else's junk it is all in my hands. When I do I am very careful, over cautious and pay really good attention to make sure nothing happens since it isn't mine.

I like Craig and have always gotten along with him way better than Thacker but once he took the key's he accepted full responsibility for the car IMO.

Like I said, it's just the way most of us old fuggers were raised. Just remember when you accept responsibility for someone else property they are trusting you to return it in the same condition as they lent it to you in.

Yeah I realize it was illegal but they both new that ahead of time and he still had someone else's property in his care so it is his to take care of. Being illegal does not relieve you of your responsibilities. Hell even criminals have a code of honor.

I know all the younger generation will argue that point but most of the elders will understand completely. And remember, it is just an opinion so every one's may be different. No need in arguing opinions cause no one will ever win.

[ILOVEKIDDRACING]

Hm I have to disagree with ya on that but I am old school. The older generation usually accepts responsibility anytime we borrow, use, drive or operate someone else's anything.

If I borrow a neighbors shovel and brake the handle then I return the shovel with a new handle without ever saying anything. If I borrow a friends car and drive it in a lake then I take full responsibility in getting it back to the way it was asap and without hassle to them. I mean they didn't drive it in the lake but they did trust me to take care of it when I accepted the key's along with full responsibility of the property in my care.

Same goes on anything that isn't mine/yours. It doesn't matter if someone begs you to take their boat out on the lake for the weekend for some fun, if something goes wrong then it is in your hands. You don't just take it back broken and hand them the keys with a smile and a thank you. Once you take the property of any kind and operate it yourself then you are accepting full responsibility for said property.

Remember that's old school and the way a lot of us were raised. Once you accept said property then you accept all responsibilities of said property. It has always been like that for me so you will rarely ever see me driving any ones anything. I understand as soon as I accept care of someone else's junk it is all in my hands. When I do I am very careful, over cautious and pay really good attention to make sure nothing happens since it isn't mine.

I like Craig and have always gotten along with him way better than Thacker but once he took the key's he accepted full responsibility for the car IMO.

Like I said, it's just the way most of us old fuggers were raised. Just remember when you accept responsibility for someone else property they are trusting you to return it in the same condition as they lent it to you in.

Yeah I realize it was illegal but they both new that ahead of time and he still had someone else's property in his care so it is his to take care of. Being illegal does not relieve you of your responsibilities. Hell even criminals have a code of honor.

I know all the younger generation will argue that point but most of the elders will understand completely. And remember, it is just an opinion so every one's may be different. No need in arguing opinions cause no one will ever win.

[GTslOw]

Hm I have to disagree with ya on that but I am old school. The older generation usually accepts responsibility anytime we borrow, use, drive or operate someone else's anything.

If I borrow a neighbors shovel and brake the handle then I return the shovel with a new handle without ever saying anything. If I borrow a friends car and drive it in a lake then I take full responsibility in getting it back to the way it was asap and without hassle to them. I mean they didn't drive it in the lake but they did trust me to take care of it when I accepted the key's along with full responsibility of the property in my care.

Same goes on anything that isn't mine/yours. It doesn't matter if someone begs you to take their boat out on the lake for the weekend for some fun, if something goes wrong then it is in your hands. You don't just take it back broken and hand them the keys with a smile and a thank you. Once you take the property of any kind and operate it yourself then you are accepting full responsibility for said property.

Remember that's old school and the way a lot of us were raised. Once you accept said property then you accept all responsibilities of said property. It has always been like that for me so you will rarely ever see me driving any ones anything. I understand as soon as I accept care of someone else's junk it is all in my hands. When I do I am very careful, over cautious and pay really good attention to make sure nothing happens since it isn't mine.

I like Craig and have always gotten along with him way better than Thacker but once he took the key's he accepted full responsibility for the car IMO.

Like I said, it's just the way most of us old fuggers were raised. Just remember when you accept responsibility for someone else property they are trusting you to return it in the same condition as they lent it to you in.

Yeah I realize it was illegal but they both new that ahead of time and he still had someone else's property in his care so it is his to take care of. Being illegal does not relieve you of your responsibilities. Hell even criminals have a code of honor.

I know all the younger generation will argue that point but most of the elders will understand completely. And remember, it is just an opinion so every one's may be different. No need in arguing opinions cause no one will ever win.

i agree with you bugman but if i told someone to drive my car for me and something happens i would never expect them to make it right, but had they asked to "borrow" said vehicle then they are liable in my book. i know you are oldschool bugman and i have mucho respect for you and what you are about i personally would not have expected craig to take care of it in this situation.

[BUGMAN]

i agree with you bugman but if i told someone to drive my car for me and something happens i would never expect them to make it right, but had they asked to "borrow" said vehicle then they are liable in my book. i know you are oldschool bugman and i have mucho respect for you and what you are about i personally would not have expected craig to take care of it in this situation.

I understand exactly what your saying but then ya have to throw the friendship thing in the factor. Either way you look at it it was a bad situation to be in for both parties involved.

We had a friend try to give my wife the keys to his 40k turbo car to make a pass at the track. He told her he wanted to see how fast it really was and he told her that he knew she could drive the hell out of it. It was hard for her to decline but we didn't want any part of that liability. The next pass he made the tranny went out. He laughed and said even if she had been driving he wouldn't have cared because if it is gonna happen there is no stopping it. However we were both glad that she declined the offer.

I like your way of thinking... Not too many people out there with true common sense anymore.