throwing this question out there

[Vteckidd]

bikes will murder cars from a roll, and a dig, haha, unless youre runnin a slowwwwwwww bike, or a fastttttttt supra, vette, etc.

TDF almost beat a bike from a dig on low boost.

Bike owners arent the best drivers either

[RJ's325ITS]

I agree with the OP and most of the other people in here.



I’m able to see the different points of view in this thread. Like Boris his car never runs fine “I mean no harm by it Boris”. Like Daniel that he is afraid to break his diff, or like most people like levinu you that if we have a light turn he will lift because he doesn’t like light turns. Or like me which I use to take it a bit further to road racing because my point of view is that car should be able to perform good in all aspects (acceleration, turning and braking).



We can all compromise and get some good racing but our egos don’t allow it, sometimes we step into someone else ego by putting money in between.



My answer to the original question is:



Is all about purpose and application, I started ST racing about 6 years ago with my project car just to have fun, I’d used to do digs, roll and some road racing too on specific locations. Some people with a lot more horsepower will lose since they were not good drivers and some others with less power will stay with my to the end because they had their cars mastered. This car had the purpose of Road Course Racing but the application at the time was ST racing.



A lot of the cars like Boris are moded with no purpose and with only one application Go fest “fast”; Cars like Daniel’s also build to go fast. If we ever tried to give a purpose to our cars we would’ve spend less money and less time spinning BUT doing so will not be ST racing because ST racing has no rules, ST racing brakes the rules.



There are some people that keep the essence of ST racing alive people that don’t build a car that breaks every 2 or 3 races and people that knows the limits of their driving skills and stays under 400whp limits.



Bottom line rolls comes to cars and not drivers. The only thing that is a driver factor is how fast you shift and when to shift.



I’ve started with an 180whp that this not deliver to the application of ST racing since couldn’t do all the mods I wanted since I have a sanction body rule book to follow. So I got new car; this car will not follow rules will go as far as the application will let me. The purpose was FI and reliable as a any other street car and my application would be daily driver/track car/st racing/drift car and I end up with what I have now a light car with 400whp and a spare set of M/T drag radials for when I need to dig.



The suspension is as soft as I could do it in order to serve all of my applications and the weight reduction was taken to the limits but without compromising comfort like my sound system and A/C system