Starions are not DSMs and dont have 4g63s MORE INSIDE!

[1439/2000]

I hear funny stuff on this website sometimes and like to clear it up but its a never ending task. I correct, ahem, educate somebody and then another person says something a few days later, its boring.

If you dont have anything nice to say then dont say it at all should be changed to if you dont have anything smart to say dont say anything at all.

[Outphase]

I want to see Starions, more starions, btw nice Galant...can you take me for a ride in it? I am being serious too...I like old school Mitsu...back when they were cool...sigh...I hate car companies nowadays, wish my car was AWD instead of this ghetto ghey FWD.

[DSMer]

I think people are attributing "DSM" to any mitsu. They dont understand it was a joint production with chrysler and mitsu. And any car that was in that "agreement" was considered a DSM. This makes it way easier to distinguish a DSM from an evo,starion, etc, when talking about mitsus.

[Outphase]

When I think DSM, I think Eagle Talon and the similar body style Eclipse.

I also think about how hard it is for you guys to get a transmission that doesn't break.

[imbosile]

OUTPHASE: Clear your PM's.

[SpecV_Scott]

I get the "you're a DSM guy" comment a lot, even though I don't have one. My Mirage was made in Japan, not in the hands of Chrysler goons! 3000GT/Stealth owners are in the same boat!

[{X}Echo419]

I get the "you're a DSM guy" comment a lot, even though I don't have one. My Mirage was made in Japan, not in the hands of Chrysler goons! 3000GT/Stealth owners are in the same boat!
indeed :yes:

[stealthrt]

I get the "you're a DSM guy" comment a lot, even though I don't have one. My Mirage was made in Japan, not in the hands of Chrysler goons! 3000GT/Stealth owners are in the same boat!

Lol, one of my only "reputation points" has the comments "DSM power"

I was like.. OKAY :goodjob:

[EP3sAreFun]

this is a 4G63
http://misheli.image.pbase.com/u9/kmfdm43/upload/7163713.Nov11_10.jpg

this is the G54B
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4648/0930061434dlv0.jpg

completely different motors and setup...

But thanks to Buschur Racing some Starions now have 4Gs in them lol

[Kalifornia087]

What? How long have you been withholding this intel!?

Next i suppose your gonna say they made motors that didn't have pistons. Crazy kids.

[EP3sAreFun]

Starions run on hopes and dreams.....

...well most of the time anyways...

[The Green Monster]

^^^or not at all lol^^^


like mine :(

[EP3sAreFun]

shit. tell us what you need to get it running and i'm sure we can make some calls and get pretty much anything ya need.

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

Starions run on hopes and dreams.....

...well most of the time anyways...

That seems to be very true

[madhatch]

dsm diamond star motors?
well anyways I am trying to pick up a SQ soon and I will have hopefully a 4g63 or 4g63/4 t setup.
hopefully be worthy of props from even these hardcore you dont meet our standards ranks.

[madhatch]

actually they did have the 4g63t just not here
and as far as dsm, it was still a joint venture so...
here ya go
The Starion used a traditional front-mounted engine with rear-wheel drive layout, which most sports cars use. Many came with a limited slip differential and anti-lock brakes (single channel, rear wheels only) as standard features. The entire chassis was derived from the previous high performance variant of the Mitsubishi Sapporo or Galant Lambda sports coupe, with a MacPherson strut front suspension and semi-trailing arm independent rear suspension.

Engine capacity was 2.0 L with the now well-known 4G63 2.0 L engine, subsequently featured in the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution series of automobiles. However, American customers received the larger G54B 2.6 L engine but without any additional horsepower. Neither was DOHC. After 1987, European Starion models were also fitted with the 2.6 L engine, as was the GSR-VR for Japan. Both engines featured computer controlled fuel injection and turbocharging.

Horsepower varied between 150 and 197 bhp depending mostly upon the turbocharger that was fitted, the presence of an intercooler, and whether the 8-valve or 12-valve head was used.

A naturally-aspirated version known as the GX was also built for the Japanese market, however production ceased in 1983 due to low sales figures. The Starion GX had no electric windows, no air conditioning, no independent rear suspension, no fuel injection and did not have power-assisted steering.

Seating was a 2+3 arrangement, although the rear seats are not too suitable for large adults. The front seats were adjustable for lumbar, angle, knee support, position and featured variable-angle side-braces.

One of the more unusual features was that the seatbelts were located in the doors for the driver and front passenger, and some American and European models featured electrically operated seatbelts.

A five-speed manual transmission was standard in most models, however, an automatic transmission was sold as an option in some markets.

The drag coefficient was around 0.32; quite efficient for the era, and although quite angular, the aerodynamics in general were exceptional at the time.


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[EP3sAreFun]

the 4G63 in japan/europe was also a SOHC 8V. which is why most dont think of it as a 4G63 of today's standards.

[madhatch]

tru, and understood but how popular was the dohc 4g at that time?

[madhatch]

In looking at the starion 4g i found this about the evo
In the United Kingdom, a special Lancer Evolution, the FQ-400, produces 302.13 kW (405.2 hp), from a 4G63 engine. At 202.9 hp (151.3 kW) per liter, it has possibly the highest specific output per liter of any production engine
I thought that was pretty crazy myself

[EP3sAreFun]

tru, and understood but how popular was the dohc 4g at that time?
I'm pretty sure it wasnt out during the early to mid 80s.

[madhatch]

dohc was rare for most manufacturers until 1990 ish