Forged Performance: Alpha 10 GT-R Pump Gas Record + 957whp C16

[CHADbee]

We've had the pleasure to work on many of Doug's fun project cars over the years, but this one is definitely the pinnacle of his collection. His car made it back down to us from his home in Illinois after only being back in his hands for a few months. His previous 630 whp setup just wasn't enough to satisfy his need for power. He wanted a true street monster that would wax just about anything in its path while still being a civilized daily driver. The heart of the build consisted of an AMS Alpha 10 setup paired with our FP1-R 3.8L in-house assembled power plant capped with a pair of our FP Spec big valve cylinder heads. With these power goals in mind, several areas need to be upgraded including the engine, transmission, brakes, suspension, wheels and tires...the works.

Many of you recognize our tradition of building balanced track worthy cars that can still be driven daily. When tasked with building a very fast street car, our balanced philosophy is no different. We added a properly sprung set of JRZ RS Pro Silent Edition Coilovers, our Forged Performance Extreme Performance Sway Bar Set with Racing End Links, Endless MX72 brake pads, and a custom spec'd set of 20X10 20X12 HRE wheels wrapped in a square set of Michelin Pilot Super Sport Tires 315/35/20. We even installed a discrete Passport 9500ci radar detector and laser jammer to offer some modicum of protection from the law. :)The acceleration is neck snapping while the handling remains razor sharp. Our transmission shifts superbly on the upshift and downshift, responding instantaneously to the paddles. There is a lot to be said for a car that not only makes tremendous power, but can also effectively lay it down to the ground and that's what we've accomplished here.

While we were planning this project, we knew this car was going to be a beast, but we weren't quite prepared for the end result, especially since we consider this a fast spooling balanced daily driven setup. After Sharif worked his magic in front of his Thinkpad, we made an incredible 838 whp @ 24psi on 93 octane on our low reading Dyno Dynamics! Like most shops that use unlinked dyno rollers, we ran the car in 2wd mode in order to preseve the front drive clutches. We were not 100% sure, so we had to confirm with AMS that this was in fact the highest WHP Alpha 10 on 93 octane to date. This car also made 957 whp @ 30psi at 8000rpm on C16 before our dyno gave out. Until we update our dyno software and run larger gauge power cables to the dyno, It appears we are going to have to go to another local dyno to complete the race gas tune on this monster. Stay tuned for updated race gas numbers in the near future! With 5psi left to go, it's no doubt this beast has more room to run.


http://vimeo.com/35908726

Performance Modifications:
Forged Performance FP1-R Shortblock
FP Spec ARIAS Extreme Duty Zero Silicon Pistons
Manley Turbo Tuff I-Beam Rods
Forged Performance Stage 5 Ported and Polished Heads and Bronze Valve Guides
Tomei 272/272 ProCams VR38 Camshafts
Ferrea VR38 Full Valvetrain Kit w/ 1mm Oversized Valves
ARP L19 Head and Main Studs
HKS Head Gasket
AMS Alpha 10 Turbo Kit
AMS GT-R FMIC Kit
AMS GT-R Alpha IC Piping kit
Injector Dynamic 2000cc injectors
T1 Race Development Fuel Rails
FP Spec Fuel System with -8 Line Upgrade
CBRD Radiator
GTC 102mm Titan Exhaust & Y Pipe
PPG 1st Gear
FP Spec Stage 4 Dodson GR6 Upgrade Package (Promax Clutch, PPG 1st gear)
Transmission Assembly and Overhaul Performed In House at Forged
Cobb AccessPort w/ TCM

Other Upgrades:
JRZ RS Pro Silent Edition Coilovers
Password JDM 38mm Wide Front Fenders
HRE P40 20x10.5/20x12 Flat Black
Michelin Pilot Super Sport 315/35/20
Escort 9500CI Laser Shifter & Radar Detector Kit
Forged Performance Extreme Performance Sway Bar Set
Forged Performance Racing Stainless Steel Brake Line Kit
OS Giken Rear TCD Differential

Pictures of the work:

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93 Octane:
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C16 Racegas:
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[RL...]

damn thats badass...0-60 in sub 2 seconds? lol

[CHADbee]

damn thats badass...0-60 in sub 2 seconds? lol

Traction is an issue to say the least, we have a set of 18 inch TE37SL's and drag radials and with that we should expect 0-60 in the low 2 second range.

[MeFryRice]

May I ask why Sharif disconnected the front diff when tuning it?

[jtdb8]

That is a sweet sweet ride. AND SOME SICK POWER. that car will be stupid fast. Props to you and forged chad.

[dc2gs]

Thats is SICK!!! great work dude

[CptWitwiki]

that is so bad ass...

[CHADbee]

May I ask why Sharif disconnected the front diff when tuning it?

The front clutches on the GT-R have a tendency to overheat when you do 30+ back to back pulls on a dyno. To preserve them most shops dyno tune the car this way once you start getting in the 700+ WHP range. Once the car is on the street or track this isn't an issue, but on the dyno it is just a safety measure.

[quickdodge®]

Chad? Is this car supposed to be impressive, dammit? Later, QD.

[MeFryRice]

The front clutches on the GT-R have a tendency to overheat when you do 30+ back to back pulls on a dyno. To preserve them most shops dyno tune the car this way once you start getting in the 700+ WHP range. Once the car is on the street or track this isn't an issue, but on the dyno it is just a safety measure.

Any numbers based on the power going to all four wheels?

[CHADbee]

Chad? Is this car supposed to be impressive? Later, QD.

It's not supposed to be, it is. You're not ignorant so I'm sure you know 850+ WHP on pump gas, low 9 second capable drag times and the reliability to drive cross country is not an easy task.

[Cynical 1]

must be nice to have some extra cash...

looks nice...

[quickdodge®]

It's not supposed to be, it is. You're not ignorant so I'm sure you know 850+ WHP on pump gas, low 9 second capable drag times and the reliability to drive cross country is not an easy task.

You know I'm not ignorant. You should know I was joking, though, Sir Chad! Later, QD.

[CHADbee]

Any numbers based on the power going to all four wheels?
Well, the GT-R's drive system is RWD on the street until it senses a loss of traction then it converts to AWD to help split the power. I have driven a 704 WHP GT-R with the front driveshaft removed and from 60mph it hooked and pulled hard with zero wheel spin. If that car still had the front driveshaft, it wouldn't have been powering the front wheels in that situation so it being RWD on the dyno is a very accurate. The GT-R's AWD system is a lot more advanced than say, and Evo or STI, it only uses the front wheels when it is needed. Also the drivetrain loss to the pavement is a lot less than most AWD cars as well.

Just to go a little more in depth regarding the reasons we typically tune higher HP GT-R's in RWD mode, the front drive clutches are perfectly happy driving the front wheels as long as the front and rear rollers are working and locked together, just like they would work on a public road. On an un-linked dyno system such as the Dyno Dynamics, or DynoJet, running the car in 4WD mode means the front drive system is spinning up the front roller without help from the rear. This would be like standing the car on it's nose and accelerating it down the street. AMS, Shep, and pretty much all the tuners agree on this. We are working on a custom modification to our dyno, where we will link the rollers together. For extended tuning sessions, it's simply a lower risk approach to disable the front drive. This would make our life much easier as R/R'ing front shaft gets old. Keep in mind, we only do this on builds that approach 700whp and beyond. For stock turbo setups we feel the risks are minimal and continue using the dyno in 4WD mode.

Thanks for the questions Steve, come out to C&O this weekend and check it out in person.


You know I'm not ignorant. You should know I was joking, though, Sir Chad! Later, QD.

;)

[JEY$JDM]

Hell yeah man... Goooood sh!t like always! :goodjob: Can I come to work with yall?! lol

[CHADbee]

Hell yeah man... Goooood sh!t like always! :goodjob: Can I come to work with yall?! lol

Hah! We aren't hiring right now but if something comes up I'll let ya know.

[JEY$JDM]

Hah! We aren't hiring right now but if something comes up I'll let ya know.

Shweeeeeeeet haha

[MeFryRice]

Thanks for the clarification. I forgot about C&O this weekend. We'll make it up this month as she's (the gf) worked every last Sunday and would enjoy coming out again

[CHADbee]

Thanks for the clarification. I forgot about C&O this weekend. We'll make it up this month as she's (the gf) worked every last Sunday and would enjoy coming out again

No problem at all, I'm always happy to answer any questions and if I don't have a informed answer I'll ask Ryan or Sharif lol Awesome, find/call/text me when you get there :) Don't forget there is a new location:

5310 Windward Parkway
Alpharetta, GA 30004

[Boosting EG]

sick

[.blank cd]

Forged moved up to windward? I guess I'll be seeing a lot more of these cars now. Lol

[CHADbee]

Forged moved up to windward? I guess I'll be seeing a lot more of these cars now. Lol

Both our locations are still on Cobb Parkway. The Caffeine and Octane's new location in on Windward.

[.blank cd]

Ahhhhh

[Dylan]

Get paid to do something you enjoy, and you will never work another day in your life. Forged kicks ass, I'm sure every day at work is amazing! :goodjob:

[Doppelgänger]

Meh....I could take it.......




...out with a hit from a Mack truck lol.



I hear there is a Veyron in town talking shit about GT-Rs.....

[CHADbee]

Meh....I could take it.......




...out with a hit from a Mack truck lol.



I hear there is a Veyron in town talking shit about GT-Rs.....
PLEASE get me in touch with the Veyron owner! That is a video you will want to see right?!?!

[CHADbee]

This cars 60-130 SHOULD be in the LOW 4 second range.....a stock Veyron is 5.6.....a y-pipe + tune GT-R is around mid 8 seconds.....a stock 430 is 10.1

[Doppelgänger]

Chad...dude...I was joking with you lol. I have yet to see one in Atlanta (though I've heard rumors of a couple being here). I was also implying that this car could put up one hell of a fight...so much that I couldn't really give my opinion on who would win.

[CHADbee]

Chad...dude...I was joking with you lol. I have yet to see one in Atlanta (though I've heard rumors of a couple being here). I was also implying that this car could put up one hell of a fight...so much that I couldn't really give my opinion on who would win.

Oh you tease! I have heard of a few running around and hoping you were serious lol this car would WALK a Veyron(yes I am bench racing lol). The new Veyron SS claims 9.9 1/4 mile and GT-R's with similar power as this one typically run 9.1-9.3.

Real track numbers on 18" TE37 and drag radials soon ;)

[Genji-Sama]

Ummmmmmm......Damn, that's pretty freakin awesome. Also i didn't know that GTRs ran on 2 wheels, til they slipped (THE MORE YOU KNOOOW!) :goodjob:

[CHADbee]

Ummmmmmm......Damn, that's pretty freakin awesome. Also i didn't know that GTRs ran on 2 wheels, til they slipped (THE MORE YOU KNOOOW!) :goodjob:

Yeah the R35 GT-R's drive system is insanely intelligent! This is just one of the many things that allow the car to use its power so effectively.

[AtlScionBoy]

now thats sex on wheels!!

[.blank cd]

Chad, did you do the video?

[ZOSICK]

Oh you tease! I have heard of a few running around and hoping you were serious lol this car would WALK a Veyron(yes I am bench racing lol). The new Veyron SS claims 9.9 1/4 mile and GT-R's with similar power as this one typically run 9.1-9.3.

Real track numbers on 18" TE37 and drag radials soon ;)

Chad if one wanted to duplicate This build what would it cost car included? thx

[JoshRuff]

is this the one from Macon?

[2turbo4u]

is this the one from Macon?

I take it you haven't read a thing?

[JoshRuff]

just a simple question, dont have to be a smart ass about it.

[TIGERJC]

Oh you tease! I have heard of a few running around and hoping you were serious lol this car would WALK a Veyron(yes I am bench racing lol). The new Veyron SS claims 9.9 1/4 mile and GT-R's with similar power as this one typically run 9.1-9.3.

Real track numbers on 18" TE37 and drag radials soon ;)
Since we're bench racing, it might be closer from a roll going up to 200 mph http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qgm2t6o6LZ8&feature=fvwrel

[CHADbee]

now thats sex on wheels!!
Ha I agree.

Chad, did you do the video?
I did. I'm trying to get better.

Chad if one wanted to duplicate This build what would it cost car included? thx
For obvious reasons we don't release exact information on the cost of customers builds but for a fully built 1000-ish WHP GT-R you going to spend roughly:
$65k-ish for a nice 2009 GT-R
$80k-ish for the motor/head/trans/turbo build

then you want good suspension which would run around $5-7k, brakes for $3-4k, wheels are tires for like $6-8k

It is far from cheap but then again the end result is a supercar killer that runs low 9's, handles extremely well, has the braking capabilities to bruise your shoulders(happened to me at the tail of the dragon) all while keeping your butt warm in the winter and having navigation incase you get lost.

is this the one from Macon?
No.

Since we're bench racing, it might be closer from a roll going up to 200 mph http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qgm2t6o6LZ8&feature=fvwrel
To my surprise the GT-R still pulls hard up top, unlike other AWD cars. Using a black box to record 60mph-130mph times is a big deal these days. Check out those times using google, very interesting stuff.

Dragtimes car is a Switzer P800 kit, which puts down about 700whp on our dyno....which is 250whp less than this car.

...and stop being a stranger, call me when you have time.

[GlennsEK]

Wow that crazy!

[MeFryRice]

just a simple question, dont have to be a smart ass about it.

Learn to read and you won't get a smartass response. ;)

[.blank cd]

I did. I'm trying to get better.Not bad at all if you ask me!

BTW, that was me last night

"I LOVE YOU CHAD"

[CHADbee]

Not bad at all if you ask me!

BTW, that was me last night

"I LOVE YOU CHAD"

Thanks dude! I'm getting there. LOL I was wondering who that was! I saw your car but missed you somehow.

[OnURleft]

There was one of these Alpha 10's at IFO running 9.3's@155+ on E85. I can't wait to see some action from another one of these around Atlanta.

Very impressive build

[CHADbee]

There was one of these Alpha 10's at IFO running 9.3's@155+ on E85. I can't wait to see some action from another one of these around Atlanta.

Very impressive build

Yep! That is Mike's 2012 Alpha 10. This one is the same displacement and the same turbos but also has ported heads, valvetrain and cams.