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kr3w108
05-31-2010, 08:07 PM
OK I have a few questions . First off is a gsr head on b16 block a waste of time.... am I better off with a b16 head. Second will a b16 intake fit on a gsr head? Thx in advance. :goodjob:

mistergou
05-31-2010, 08:51 PM
b16 an b18c5 (type r) intake manifolds will swap but the gsr b18c1 is all by itself ...

dunno on the gsr head on b16 block, but it should work


usually most people have a gsr block an put a b16 head on it for a poor mans type r setup

kr3w108
05-31-2010, 10:49 PM
yes i know about the poor mans type r, i am just curious how the b16 block and the gsr head will do together. the code on the head is p75 idk which modle gsr it is i believe its the c1 but not sure.
b16 an b18c5 (type r) intake manifolds will swap but the gsr b18c1 is all by itself ...

dunno on the gsr head on b16 block, but it should work


usually most people have a gsr block an put a b16 head on it for a poor mans type r setup

Jenson
06-01-2010, 12:47 PM
P75 is an LS head, B18B1. GSR, B18C1 is P72.

I like the P72 chamber much better than the P13. The chamber is also a little bit smaller on the P72 as well.

Starrfire
06-01-2010, 01:17 PM
Hmm, wonder what it would do for mid range torque on the b16 with the dual stage manifold. sounds like a good thing for it. but a p75 head is an LS head, not a gsr. P72 is 94+ gsr. But it will fit no problem. Just need a different radiator hose.

kr3w108
06-01-2010, 06:29 PM
I meant to say p72 Idk why I put 75 LOL. I'm thinking ls-v so I may not use the b16 block. Putting my a2 piston in ls block with gsr head and call it a day....

JDMJAYDC2
06-01-2010, 06:42 PM
i have that current setup b16 block gsr head basically you get a high compression b16 feels stronger than a b16 to me

http://www.c-speedracing.com/howto/compcalc/compcalc.php

just change the head to a b18c1 and see the difference

kr3w108
06-01-2010, 09:18 PM
All. My friends say its a waste... what kind of HP you looking at? You took It to a track yet? I'm kind of in the middle of b16 block with a gsr head or ls-v with b16 pistons. I think ls-v will produce the most out of the two.

Black4DrEK
06-02-2010, 01:35 AM
If you want to do LSV then you should "build" it with internals... IMO

Also the GSR head on B16 Block is a waste.. Just sell it or trade for a B16 head..

jerseyef9
06-02-2010, 09:30 AM
poor man type r is great set up if only build it properly
dont go with the hype of lsv and b20v is great man
do whatever your budget allow you to do

allmotorX
06-02-2010, 10:41 AM
^lsv or b20v built right is great!!!

jerseyef9
06-02-2010, 11:44 AM
^^^ true man im knocking the build but it gotta be in that person budget also ppl keep tellin ppl that oh you need to this and that not carrying about their budget and stuff oh well im just giving my two cent i wish you a best of luck man with whatever route you go with

DarKStaR
06-02-2010, 04:23 PM
A gsr head on a b16 bottom end would be better than a regular b16 because of the increase in compression and having the gsr cams. But would probably benefit more swapping out the gsr intake manifold to a blox,skunk2,aebs. But i would only do this if you had it laying around. An ls-v will make alot more power and torque all around, if done right. Ls block with b16 pistons can net around 200whp with the right head setup.

kr3w108
06-02-2010, 07:22 PM
I don't really have a budget, I have both ls and b16 already in my hands. Just need to decide which path to take. Either way I'm gonna rebuild both . I wanna do lsv and it be reliable.

DarKStaR
06-02-2010, 07:25 PM
if you have both then do ls-v just make sure you know what you are doing.

kr3w108
06-02-2010, 09:31 PM
Thx man, I will have everything right. Gonna rebuild bottom end completely.

jerseyef9
06-03-2010, 08:38 AM
gsr water pump olil pump and timing belt and balance the bottom end plz

kr3w108
06-03-2010, 09:07 AM
gsr water pump olil pump and timing belt and balance the bottom end plz

Yezsir. I have all that just waiting to put It together. And I plan on balancing the crank.

kr3w108
06-03-2010, 09:10 AM
I used a compression calculator on my computer and it said my compression will be around 12:2 .... I'm thinkin that's a lil high.

jerseyef9
06-03-2010, 04:56 PM
that is not high dude you can tuned that on pump gas and ride out man
my tuner had simple b16 head with springs retainers and skunk pro 2s and b16piston in ls bottom end made 210

Black4DrEK
06-03-2010, 05:53 PM
OBD2 B series oil pump...

12.2 is high but not TOO high were it will be a problem.. just get a tune..IMPORTXP.COM

Build it right!

kr3w108
06-03-2010, 07:22 PM
Sweet, I plan on adding a lil bit of boost with This as well. I'm not looking for big ass numbers just want something fun and reliable.

DarKStaR
06-03-2010, 08:12 PM
if you plan on boosting it dont put b16 pistons in it.

kr3w108
06-03-2010, 09:18 PM
That's why I was worried about the compression ratio. ...

DarKStaR
06-03-2010, 09:51 PM
You could leave the ls pistons in it to put you around 10.18:1 which would be like a gsr with more tq. and that would also leave you with a good compression to boost on.

kr3w108
06-03-2010, 10:07 PM
Hmmm... Alright sounds good. As far as the strength of a stock piston what kind of pressure can they stand? Thinking maybe I should buy some forged pistons to go with my new rods.

Black4DrEK
06-03-2010, 10:33 PM
If you have the funds... I would do the Aftermarket forged pistons with Rods...

allmotorX
06-03-2010, 10:41 PM
If you have the funds... I would do the Aftermarket forged pistons with Rods...sounds like a familiar build

Black4DrEK
06-03-2010, 10:52 PM
sounds like a familiar build

yessir!


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