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bpoweredhatch
04-18-2009, 11:16 PM
ok i need some help from all of you guys thats been in the honda game for awhile. i got a fullu built gsr turbo setup and last saturday i ran a guy and didnt notice my car had a little knock to it when i reved it up a little from the TB. when it idled it didnt sound like it was messed up but only at about 2k you could here a little knock. but my question is what all should i replace i gotta have my car running before this thursday coming up.and how much am i looking to spend
Theycall_Metue
04-19-2009, 12:51 AM
how much boost are you pushing?
and is it tuned?
green91
04-19-2009, 09:30 AM
depends on what is making the knocking sound. It could be as simple as bearings. Most knocks ive heard have been directly caused by something else though.. incorrect bearing clearance, low oil pressure (pump failure or low oil), overheating etc. how long has the engine been together?
bpoweredhatch
04-19-2009, 09:40 AM
its been together for awhile its been a strong engine i ve been having a oil leak from my stupid oil pan that i gotta fix also.and im running 19 on runs and daily 13 on wastegate
Barefoot
04-19-2009, 09:48 AM
u are going to have to replace the bearings. 99% of most knock i see are bearings. pull the crank and rods have a machine shop check it out. make sure there is no damage.
bpoweredhatch
04-19-2009, 10:23 AM
make sure there is know damage to the crank?the car couldnt of been running long the night it happened and the knock wasnt loud at all.just need to fix it and have it running before thursday. also would i have to replace the rods or just the bearing
Barefoot
04-19-2009, 10:29 AM
make sure there is know damage to the crank?the car couldnt of been running long the night it happened and the knock wasnt loud at all.just need to fix it and have it running before thursday. also would i have to replace the rods or just the bearingfyi once it happens nothing else matters. if there is no damage to the rods an crank u would have to plasti gauge and get the correct size bearings.
bpoweredhatch
04-19-2009, 10:43 AM
k thanks i ll let you know taking it apart today.does anyone know if its gonna cost me over 500 to get it going
-S Double C-
04-19-2009, 11:43 AM
your gonna need rings, another head gasket, and then you need to take out your crank and inspect it and the rod bearings, then go to the machine shop and have them turn the crank if its damaged and get them to order you a set of main bearings/rod bearings it will probably run you about 500 or a little less you will also need a rehone possibly. You could leave the pistons/rods in the block and pull the crank out but i wouldnt really recommend it.
bpoweredhatch
04-19-2009, 11:47 AM
hey why would i need a new head gasket and rings?
WANTED
04-19-2009, 12:09 PM
If he's thinking along the same lines as me, whenever you remove the head, you should replace the head gasket. Same deal for whenever you remove the pistons. It's not recommended to reuse these as they can be easily damaged/kinked upon removal.
bpoweredhatch
04-19-2009, 12:10 PM
oh i wasnt planing on pulling the pistons out
T34me
04-19-2009, 12:21 PM
might as well do an overhaul while theyre out
Barefoot
04-19-2009, 01:51 PM
oh i wasnt planing on pulling the pistons outu need to add to the plans. if u want to get it fixed the correct way.
WANTED
04-19-2009, 02:30 PM
u need to add to the plans. if u want to get it fixed the correct way.
+1. Half-ass the work and you'll always have problems.
turbob20
04-19-2009, 06:49 PM
first take the exhaust off along with the oil pan and the main stud girdle. then take one rod cap off at a time and check them. if its just a clearence problem plastigage and go up to the next size bearing. if its spun the bearing in the rod and scarred the crank then you will have to pull the motor and get a nother rod and polish crank or even weld it up an turn it back down if its run too long.in the worst case might as well rebuild all and see what caused it!
bpoweredhatch
04-19-2009, 06:53 PM
it was from to much boost or over reved im not sure. i had a slight oil leak coming from my oil pan wasnt major but it did leak.and who knows the oil pump could of went out when we ran the guy
bpoweredhatch
04-19-2009, 06:54 PM
it was from to much boost or over reved im not sure. i had a slight oil leak coming from my oil pan wasnt major but it did leak.and who knows the oil pump could of went out when we ran the guy. but the rods have no play in them
turbob20
04-20-2009, 10:48 PM
you cant tell that way even with a bad bearing it will be smashed out around the rod. you have to visually inspect for wear and flatening from too much clearance wich u will see as the bearing will be different colors in spots from different contact pressures.
bpoweredhatch
04-20-2009, 11:46 PM
finally got it apart today it was the main bearing there wasnt to bad crank is still good has no rough spots or marks on it.so my question is what should i do next i was gonna replace the rod,main bearing to be safe and put it back together.i had standard acl bearing could i just replace them with b16 rod bearing anyone
Barefoot
04-21-2009, 12:58 AM
finally got it apart today it was the main bearing there wasnt to bad crank is still good has no rough spots or marks on it.so my question is what should i do next i was gonna replace the rod,main bearing to be safe and put it back together.i had standard acl bearing could i just replace them with b16 rod bearing anyoneplastigauge
bpoweredhatch
04-21-2009, 06:16 AM
never done that before how hard is it
Barefoot
04-21-2009, 08:24 AM
http://www.c-speedracing.com/howto/bearings/bearings.php
im_hung
04-21-2009, 11:06 AM
you can also just get the oem bearings. check the block and the crank, they have codes on them to get you the correct color bearings.
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